# Feb 1 Teleconference *From: ****Jeremy Farrar*** *Sent: Sat, Feb 1, 2020 1:13 PM* *To: ****Fauci****, Anthony, Patrick Vallance* *Cc: Christian Drosten, Marion Koopmans, R.A.M. Fouchier, Edward Holmes Andrew Rambaut, Kristian G. Andersen, Paul Schreier (*[*CEO Wellcome*](https://wellcome.org/news/paul-schreier-new-chief-operating-officer-wellcome)*, since Sep 2, 2019), Mike Ferguson, Francis Collins* *Subject: Re: Teleconference* *Kristen and Eddie have shared this and will talk through it on the call. Thank you.* *Hope it will help frame the discussions.* (There was a lot of sharing/cheering of this Jan 31 Jon Cohen[ Science article](https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins) which features Dasak, sets template for the conspiracy theorist vilification campaign - or was it the Prox O draft itself?) *From :****Jeremy Farrar****, 1 Feb 2020 at 15:34* *Information and discussion is shared in ****total confidence**** and not to be* *shared until agreement on next steps.* (Actually not to be shared - ever - discussion details have been redacted. Why?) *Dial in details attached.* *Please mute phones.* ***I**** will be on email throughout - email ****Paul or I**** Paul* (Schreier) *if any problems* *If you cannot make it, ****I**** will phone you afterwards to update.* (Wow! Sir Jeremy, you're all over it - in our moment of need...) ***Agenda*** - * Introduction, focus and ****desired outcomes**** - JF (****Farrar****)* - * Summary - KA *(Andersen - Prox O lead-author) - * Comments - EH *(Holmes, Prox O) - * Q&A-AII* - ***Summary and next steps**** - JF *(**Farrar**) (Prox O draft was completed that day - two of its authors are presenting. We can assume they presented their draft. Yesterday, literally, the authors confirmed it* looks engineered*. But we can’t have that - so - here’s the pangolin water-muddier plan? The *next steps and desired outcomes* were redacted. Reminds you that although we see this as an *exciting mystery investigation* - it's not a mystery for some people - it's a *lived-experience*. Luckily, Farrar provides a list of those real-life livers:) (participants: *Paul and I* (both Wellcome Trust, Farrar - Oxford 1990’s. [Paul *Schreier*](https://wellcome.org/news/paul-schreier-new-chief-operating-officer-wellcome)*, *previously a public servant adviser to PM (then Julia Gillard - current Wellcome Chair, since 2020) & Cabinet - Executive Coordinator (Strategic Policy and Implementation), most recently CEO of [Hakluyt](https://zims-en.kiwix.campusafrica.gos.orange.com/wikipedia_en_all_nopic/A/Hakluyt_&_Company#cite_note-wp-20120411-5) (2016-19), *a *shadowy *British strategic intelligence firm)* *Kristian Anderson (Prox O lead-author, Scripps)* *Bob Garry (Prox O, Tulane) - I have not been able to contact Bob. Please forward if you can.* (Same here) *Christian Drosten *(Lancet Statement/Germany’s [*Covid Tsar*](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/26/germany-50000-covid-dead-relative-success-vaccine) ) *Tony Fauci *(NIAID) *Mike Ferguson* ([Wellcome Trust Governor](https://wellcomeleap.org/mike-ferguson/)) *Ron Fouchier *([H5N1 GoF pioneer!](https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/09/flu-researcher-ron-fouchier-loses-legal-fight-over-h5n1-studies)) *Eddie Holmes* (Prox O, first non-Chinese to be allowed access to Covid’s sequence, Oxford/Wellcome 1990’s) *Marion Koopmans *(WHO investigator/[*extremely unlikely*](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/who-origins-investigator-defends-wuhan-lab-blames-lack-access-anti-china-political-rhetoric) lab-origin extremist) *Stefan Pohlmann* (Lancet Statement) *Andrew Rambaut* ([futurist](https://royalsociety.org/science-events-and-lectures/2012/epidemiology-infectious-disease/), Prox O, [2nd non-Chinese person](https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/943251#vp_3) to know sequence, [Oxford/Nuffield](https://royalsociety.org/science-events-and-lectures/2012/epidemiology-infectious-disease/) Dept 1990’s, [Wellcome funded](https://bibbase.org/network/publication/holmes-dudas-rambaut-andersen-theevolutionofebolavirusinsightsfromthe20132016epidemic-2016) through VIZIONS, [bio-surveillance enthusiast](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05373-w)) (Old-fashioned man's world at the top - except for Koopmans)