# Origin Tracing - How hard can it be? (under construction) Exposing the myth that origin tracing is (a) difficult (b) the exclusive domain of scientists # Origin Tracing Myth # CCP Love-fest As a WHO Expert Investigator, Peter Daszak would have us believe that tracing the origin of Covid is *complex...[painstakingly difficult](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid-19-lab-false-pandemic) … not exciting...[pretty boring](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/)*. He emphasizes that anyone *not trained in how to decipher genetic codes* should stay out of it. The CCP wrote the song-sheet that Daszak & co. are singing from. It was likely cooked up at a special [WIV Retreat](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/lin-fa-wang-the-dark-knight/page/the-mother-of-all-meetings) from Jan 11-14, 2020, that was chaired by *The Dark Knight* himself, [Linfa Wang](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/lin-fa-wang-the-dark-knight/page/wangs-wiv-world) (that directly resulted in the [Lancet Statement](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/lancet-statement-07k)). WHO's ensemble (conducted by Tedros and Mike Ryan et al), then took on the role as lead vocalists. WHO’s website [tells us](https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/how-who-is-working-to-track-down-the-animal-reservoir-of-the-sars-cov-2-virus) the origin is *a riddle that can take years to solve*. Fellow WHO investigator, Dominic Dwyer from Australia, [chimes in](https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/the-times/coronavirus-scientists-cast-doubt-on-whos-china-mission-to-find-covid19-origin-in-wuhan/news-story/973a5f1a0b0c460535ea012a254740c2) for the chorus: *There is every chance **we won’t ever find** patient zero or bat zero - but hopefully we can **learn better** how to react when **another pandemic comes along**.* Oh, so the investigation’s *not* about finding the origin - it’s about a *better way to react* for the next one - which so happens to be the CCP's totalitarian system of people control. *[Tedros:](https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-statement-on-ihr-emergency-committee-on-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)) As I have said repeatedly since my return from Beijing, the **Chinese government** is to be **congratulated** for the **extraordinary measures** it has taken ...**very impressive**, and beyond words. So is China’s **commitment to transparency** and to supporting other countries. China is actually setting a **new standard** for outbreak response. It’s not an exaggeration.* [W. Ian Lipkin](https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/) (WHO rep, author of [Prox-O](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/proximal-origin-of-sars-cov-2-Ebp), described by BBC as *the [definitive paper](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55364445) ruling out the possibility of a lab leak*): *We should **take a page out of what China did**.* .. *I've met Xi Jinping - he's very impressive.* [Daszak:](https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-02-02/International-community-hails-China-s-transparency-in-epidemic-control-NLgyc6JNXW/index.html) (China's response) *is unprecedented...[incredibly efficient](https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-02-02/International-community-hails-China-s-transparency-in-epidemic-control-NLgyc6JNXW/index.html)...and **open and transparent***. [Andrew Mesecar](https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-02-02/International-community-hails-China-s-transparency-in-epidemic-control-NLgyc6JNXW/index.html), head of biochemistry, **Purdue**(!) University US: *The United States cannot do something like this* (respond so quickly). *So **we are all going to learn from** how **China** is responding.* So what's the big lesson in all this for the public to learn? [Daszak:](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/) *The **big lesson to learn** from this one is: we have to **spend the money** to properly prepare now. We estimate a **nine to one return on investment**, at least.* The messaging from our publicly funded WHO operatives is: 1\. Don’t expect answers to the origin question 2\. Anyone who asks for a lab-origin to be investigated is a *conspiracy theorist* 3\. China’s totalitarian system is the best model going forward 4\. Get ready for the next one 5\. [Give me more money!](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/) # Arthur Koestler But what if origin-tracing is not as hard as WHO’s operatives are making out? What if it’s just a smoke-screen for concealing the origin? Arthur Koestler, an [intellectual](https://www.nytimes.com/1983/03/04/world/arthur-koestler-and-wife-suicides-in-london.html) and adventurer, makes a great point in his 1964 book *The Act of Creation*. To paraphrase: *The idea that science is a boring pursuit that is impenetrable to the layman is a **myth created by scientists to protect their own patch**. By surrounding science in this **fog of obscurity**, scientists seek to keep themselves at arm’s length from the public, **avoid accountability**, and reinforce their own status*. (Chapter XI, Science and Emotion) On the contrary, Koestler argues science is both *exciting* and *understandable*. Using that as a starting point, let’s take a look at what’s involved in tracing the origin - it’s not so complicated - in fact my guess is the CCP already knows. [Dr. Daniel Lucey](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55364445) tends to agree: *They (CCP) have the capability, they have the resources and they have the motivation, so of course they've done the studies in animals and in humans. I think it's findable and I think it's quite possible it's already been found. But then the question arises, why hasn't it been disclosed?* I can answer that *-* coz the truth threatens the whole fabric of our expert driven top-down system? In China & the West. Finding the origin is *not* theoretical astrophysics, despite what we're told. It doesn’t involve complex mathematical equations to determine unverifiable outcomes. It’s straightforward detective work dealing with real world details. Here’s what we know: The [closest relative](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1725399) to SARS-CoV-2 is [RaTG13](https://jonathanlatham.net/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/) at 96.2%, held at WIV. (Edit: since the time of writing a new candidate, BANAL-52 at 96.8% has emerged in Laos - an area from which WIV/EHA scientists collected viruses through the PREDICT program) (Remember, the virus discovered by Daszak and Batwoman [(WIV-1](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711)) that was heralded as the *origin for SARS-1* was only fractionally higher at *[nearly 97%](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/)*) These related viruses only exists in a few locations in the world - notably the [Mojiang mine/cave in Yunan](https://jonathanlatham.net/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/) - and WIV. Note: **None of them** are known to be contagious to humans without significant alterations. **Therefore**, SARS-Cov-2 originated from Mojiang in Yunan, (or northern Laos), after undergoing significant evolutionary change via an intermediate species, namely pangolin - or - it was engineered at WIV. Straight away that narrows the search down to a few key sites. We're getting close already. # Theory 1: Natural Origin **Mojiang Mine Natural Origin Theory** Someone in the vicinity of the mine was infected through an interaction with an infected bat. (No bats (or pangolin) were sold at Nan Hua Seafood Market) (Edit: In Sep 21 RaTG13 (96.3%) was beaten by [BANAL-52 (96.8%)](https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/wuhan-scientists-were-studying-laos-bat-viral-samples-before-covid-report-121112201019_1.html) found in Laos. But it's the same logic - still has to travel 1000 kilometres-plus to get to Wuhan - and nowhere else.) The virus was either ready to roll or may have undergone an undetected period of evolution within the human host. That person could then have travelled to Wuhan thereby causing the outbreak. \*Note: The idea of an intermediate species, namely pangolin, was pushed by Nature Medicine, but we can safely dismiss this as illogical - see reasoning below. **Evidence** RaTG13, the closest relative, was collected from the Yunnan caves. **How to investigate** 1\. Blitz test bats in the Mojiang mine area (which is the [exact same area](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711) that was reportedly home to the bats that caused SARS-1). You were doing that before Covid, so just redouble your efforts. 2\. Test those humans living in the immediate vicinity of the mine. Or anyone who has been in the mine collecting viruses for research purposes. 3\. Contract trace the first known cases in Wuhan to establish whether they had travelled from the Mojiang area or had close contact with someone from there. **Degree of difficulty:** None of that is complicated. It’s almost certainly been done already. **Problem with Scenario 1:** 1\. Given we can be pretty sure Chinese authorities would have already done the above testing, it’s a reasonable assumption we would know the results if it turned up anything that cleared WIV. 2\. Why was there no outbreak at the site of the infection? It’s possible that the infected humans living in the immediate vicinity of the cave may have already developed an immunity (which could be easily checked through an antibody test) but there still should have been some sign of contagion in more populous areas of Yunnan. \*Some Western scientists (with [massive CCP COIs](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/w-ian-lipkin-mGG)) proposed the idea of an intermediate species, [pangolin](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/the-pangolin-connection). In this scenario, a bat from Yunnan vicinity would need to have infected a caged Malaysian pangolin (1000s of kms away) which would then need to be transported to the Nan Hua Seafood Market in Wuhan (more 1000s of kms away). On the journey, the virus somehow underwent 50 years of evolution inside the pangolin. Finally, in Wuhan, where they suffered 100% mortality rate (not good for a virus looking to cause a worldwide outbreak), a pangolin infected a human at the seafood market - where no bats or pangolin were sold! The logistics of this make it impossible as a origin scenario. - Edit: After this was written, FOI emails revealed that even the authors of the Pangolin Paper didn't believe it - they though it *looks engineered*. The paper was purpose-written as disinformation to cover-up that conclusion. **Conclusion** It's unlikely, but it's not impossible. If 'patient-zero' travelled directly from the bat cave to Wuhan, 1000km away, probably by car, thereby not infecting anyone else, then stayed in Wuhan for two weeks or more ... it's theoretically doable. On the positive side, being a small probability field, it's easy to prove one way or the other: trace the shit out of it. If you're a totalitarian regime that's big on surveillance, you're tooled-up - it's not like you're gonna have privacy rights qualms. The first reported case is mid-Nov. We know it's highly contagious - the *lying-dormant-for-years* theory doesn't make sense - this virus hit the ground running. There'd have been a period where people wouldn't have twigged - it's similar to the flu - so you'd expect that - but it's explosive by nature - so maybe a month before that? So go ahead - use your high-tech-totalitarianism to trace it back to those first cases - let's say it is early/mid-October (though i'd bow to the CCP's intel on that) - now you've got to the origin window down to within a week or two. Cross reference that with those locals in close contact with bats in the Yunnan area (including WIV/EcoHealth bat collectors) who travelled to Wuhan in that timeframe - bingo - you've got your origin. Case solved. # Theory 2 - Lab Origin **Lab-Origin** Someone working for an Wuhan lab became infected with an engineered version of RaTG13 (or similar) then spread it into the community. **Evidence so far:** - An unprecedented, super-contagious coronavirus breaks out in Wuhan - *right-next-door* to a lab that was engineering super-contagious coronaviruses. - Exhibition of *[weird](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid-19-lab-false-pandemic) name-calling behaviour* from the [world’s top experts](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext) when questioned as to whether it may have escaped from a lab. - [RaTG13](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2179-y) (aka BtCoV/4991), collected from the Mojiang mine, was [held at WIV](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12250-016-3713-9), as were samples from the [infected lungs](https://jonathanlatham.net/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/) of miners from the 2012 [Mojiang incident](https://jonathanlatham.net/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/). - As were another [15 000 samples of bat viruses\*](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/29/847948272/why-the-u-s-government-stopped-funding-a-research-project-on-bats-and-coronaviru) - and a veritable zoo of caged passaging animals and/or virus samples from bats to macaques to mice to snakes to pangolin. (\* Edit: In late 2021 a Laos bat became new closest match at 96.7% - WIV/EcoHealth - through PREDICT - collected samples from Laos over several years) - WIV/EcoHealth scientists declared that some of the viruses collected were [*infectious to humans*](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/29/847948272/why-the-u-s-government-stopped-funding-a-research-project-on-bats-and-coronaviru). - WIV/EcoHealth [*passaged*](https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899) candidate viruses through animals and engineered/recombined viruses through Gain-of-Function experiments to make them [more contagious](https://web.archive.org/web/20200417111436/http://english.whiov.cas.cn/News/Int_Cooperation_News/201707/W020170718313905257748.pdf). - WIV/EcoAlliance’s [handling of bats](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4099020) without PPE, according to photos below (courtesy [https://twitter.com/BillyBostickson),](https://twitter.com/BillyBostickson),) looks bloody dangerous. - [Lab accidents](https://armscontrolcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Escaped-Viruses-final-2-17-14-copy.pdf) happen - *a lot.* SARS-1 has escaped [six times](https://thebulletin.org/2014/03/threatened-pandemics-and-laboratory-escapes-self-fulfilling-prophecies/). Covid wouldn't even be the first pandemic caused by scientists. This [2010 paper](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0011184) concludes that the origin of the H1N1 pandemic was [a lab in China](https://nationalpost.com/news/a-brief-terrifying-history-of-viruses-escaping-from-labs-70s-chinese-pandemic-was-a-lab-mistake) due to *an **accidental release** of a frozen laboratory strain into the general population* in 1971. - Bio-security at the BSL-4 WIV was [lax](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/) - it was worse at BSL-2 labs. Even the Global Times reported the ***discharge of laboratory materials into the sewer** after experiments without a specific biological disposal mechanism* and [*chronic loopholes at laboratories*.](https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1179747.shtml) - [US intelligence reports](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9153885/Mike-Pompeo-reveals-intel-implicating-Wuhan-lab-origins-COVID-19-pandemic.html) saying, *researchers at the lab fell ill in the fall of 2019 with symptoms consistent with COVID-19*. - Paper by Sorensen et al highlighting [four crucial changes](https://www.minerva.no/angus-dalgleish-birger-sorensen-coronavirus/the-evidence-which-suggests-that-this-is-no-naturally-evolved-virus/362529) to the spike protein (making it infectious to humans). They note that whereas *this part of the virus is **very stable*** in nature, these changes *can be **done simply** in a lab.* Edit: After this was written, the most damning piece of evidence of all came to light. FOI emails obtained by Buzzfeed revealed that the scientists who wrote the notorious [Proximal Origin](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/proximal-origin-of-sars-cov-2-Ebp) paper published by *Nature* (aka The Pangolin Paper), all thought Covid [*looks engineered*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/jan-31-looks-engineered). They admitted the paper was purpose-written to cover-up this probable origin scenario. ![[image]](http://formosahut.com/forum/images/uploaded/202101130631125ffe93b084f25.jpg) # Lab Origin - How to investigate
- Contact trace employees at WIV & the less secure Wuhan CDC, a BSL-2 lab in Wuhan. And workers at any other labs playing around with coronaviruses in Wuhan. If they don’t want to reveal their contacts then put them in a Re-Education Facility and threaten their families - like you normally do - i'm sure you'll get it out of them. - Cross check with first reported cases. - Locate/interview WIV lab-worker, [Huang Yanling](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12476233/patient-zero-scientist-wuhan-lab/), who disappeared suddenly. - Investigate allegations by Chinese and US experts of lax security at both facilities. - [Access WIV’s database](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4099020). According to international protocols, work on novel viruses must be published. Why did it go offline with unpublished material? Is that material relevant to the investigation? - Interview all western scientist who were outspoken in denying a lab-leak was possible (Lipkin, Daszak, Baric, Holmes, Andersen, Rambaut, Garry, Farrar, Fauci, Koopmans, Drosten, Ryan, Tedros, Embarek, Nature/Lancet editors etc). Make all their Covid-related correspondence public. Don't need to rely on China to do that. Give them lie detectors - offer immunity to the first one who spills the beans.
**Degree of Difficulty:** Low. It's straightforward detective work. Don't even need to be a world-leading-science-expert to do it - in fact it's better if you're not. For sure the China-part has already been done by CCP officials. So far no indication that the Western scientists involved have been interrogated. Only explanation for why not is that US Intelligence Agencies don't want to know. (Aside: Regarding point 5, as [@Billy Bostickson](https://twitter.com/BillyBostickson) reported, WIV said it’s Database went offline due to ["cyber-security issues"](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4099020), which might sound like an excuse, but it makes sense that outside intelligence agencies would have tried to hack it. Did they succeed?) **Conclusion** The weight of circumstantial evidence points to a lab-origin:
- the outbreak happened in Wuhan - there were labs in Wuhan manipulating closely related coronaviruses - biosecurity was lax at these labs - lab-accidents are common - analysis of the spike protein strongly suggests engineering
This adds up to the simplest, most logical explanation. Which ... as they like saying in the trade ... *warrants further investigation*. [William of Occam](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Occam%27s%20razor#:~:text=%3A%20a%20scientific%20and%20philosophical%20rule,in%20terms%20of%20known%20quantities) was a 14th century philosopher who championed the *keep-it-simple* technique of analysis to counter the *out-in-the-weeds* logic of his contemporaries. He will be *turning-in-his-grave* every time an expert tells us how *painstakingly complicated* origin tracing is, when the answers are staring us in the face. Unsurprisingly, Occam was [vilified by the experts](https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-of-Ockham) of his time. WHO Investigator Peter Daszak, expert of our time, loves banging on about *evolutionary hotspots*, while another [WIV/Daszak GoF collaborator](https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/controversial-virus-research-seen-both-as-groundbreaking-reckless/19098107/), Ralph Baric, says the *[constant mixing](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/) of different viruses creates a great opportunity for dangerous new pathogens to emerge*. The fact is, as William of Occam would immediately point out, the *hottest of hotspots* was located in downtown Wuhan at WIV - where *the constant mixing of different viruses created great opportunities for dangerous new pathogens to emerge*. It's a recipe for disaster ... **Ingredients:** deadly viruses caged lab animals - (tortured btw) entitled, unaccountable scientists recombining/evolving/engineering more deadly viruses **Method:** Add human error and stir. Allow to simmer for decades until it explodes. **Serving suggestion:** Deny you cooked it. # Theory 1: Natural Origin **Mojiang Mine Natural Origin Theory** Someone in the vicinity of the mine was infected through an interaction with an infected bat, or from collecting batshit. **No bats (or pangolin) were sold at Nan Hua *Seafood* Market** - *all but* ruling out the wet-market theory (we'll get to the *all-but* soon). Therefore: if a *zoonotic-crossover* happened, it happened to a person in the Yunnan area - who travelled to Wuhan. (Edit: In Sep '21 RaTG13 (96.3%) was beaten by [BANAL-52 (96.8%)](https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/wuhan-scientists-were-studying-laos-bat-viral-samples-before-covid-report-121112201019_1.html), which was found in Laos, which *borders* Yunnan province. 100-odd ks away, So *same area*. Exact *same area* in which the WIV/EHA *Virus Hunters* were compulsively hunting for their holy-grail - a bat virus genome that could either directly infect humans, or close enough, so it could be souped up in the Bat-Lab to become infectious to humans Making it the *same logic:* infected person still has to travel 1000 kilometres-plus (940 miles) to get to Wuhan - and *nowhere else.*) The virus was either *ready-to-roll* or may have undergone a *period-of-evolution* within the *human-host*. That person/host could then have travelled to Wuhan, thereby causing the outbreak. \*Note: The idea of an intermediate species, namely pangolin, was pushed by *Nature Medicine* but it's illogical. We can safely dismiss it. See reasoning below. **Evidence** RaTG13, the closest relative to Covid, was collected from the Mojiang cave in Yunnan. (Banal-52 was same area, just across the border in Laos). Theory: If a bat-virus in nature that close to Covid exists, then it's possible an exact match exists. **How to investigate** 1\. Blitz test bats in the Mojiang mine area ([same area](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711) that was reportedly home to the bats that caused SARS-1). You were doing that before Covid so just redouble your efforts/funding. (Check) 2\. Test those humans living in the immediate vicinity of the mine. Or anyone who has been in the mine collecting viruses for *research purposes*. 3\. Contract trace the first known cases in Wuhan to establish whether they had travelled from the Mojiang area or had close contact with someone from there. **Degree of difficulty:** None of that is complicated. It’s almost certainly been done already. (That's how they came up with Banal-52 - by testing every bat in sight) **Problems with Scenario 1:** 1\. Given we can be pretty sure Chinese authorities would have already done the above, it’s a reasonable assumption we would know the results if it turned up anything that cleared WIV. 2\. Why was there no outbreak at the site of the infection in Mojiang? It’s possible that the infected humans living in the immediate vicinity of the cave may have already developed an immunity (which could be easily checked through an antibody test) but there still should have been some sign of contagion in more populous areas of Yunnan. \* Some western scientists (with [massive CCP COIs](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/w-ian-lipkin-mGG)) put forward the theory of an intermediate species,[ pangolin](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/the-pangolin-connection). They claim that a bat from Yunnan vicinity somehow infected a pangolin-host smuggled into Guangdong (1000+ ks away) from Malaysia (1000s of ks away). On the pangolin's journey to market to a Seafood market in Wuhan (more 1000s of kms away), it miraculously underwent 50 years of evolution! Sadly, the pangolin-hosts then suffered 100% fatality rate at the market - not good-going for any virus looking to cause a world-wide outbreak in humans. Despite all these obstacles, it then infected *patient-zero* at the Nan Hua Seafood Market - where **no bats or pangolin were sold.** That's *not possible.* It's good evidence of academic fraud, but doesn't get us closer to our goal: the Origin of Covid. (Edit: After this was written, FOI emails revealed that even the authors of the Pangolin Paper didn't believe it - they thought Covid [*looks engineered*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/jan-31-looks-engineered) - the paper was purpose-written as cover-up disinformation) **Conclusion** It's unlikely, but it's not impossible. If *patient-zero* travelled directly from the Mojiang cave (or Laos) to Wuhan, 1000+ks away, not infecting anyone else along the way, then stayed in Wuhan for two weeks or more ... it's theoretically doable. On the positive side, being a small probability field, it's easy to prove one way or the other: *trace the shit out of it* If you're a totalitarian regime that's big on surveillance, you're *tooled up* - it's not like you're gonna have privacy rights qualms. The first reported case is mid-Nov. We know it's highly contagious - the *lying-dormant-for-years* theory doesn't make sense - this virus *hit-the-ground-running*. There'd have been a period where people wouldn't have twigged - it's similar to the flu - so you'd expect that - but it's explosive by nature - so maybe a month before that? So go ahead - use your high-tech-totalitarianism to trace it back to those first cases - let's say it is early/mid-October (though i'd bow to the CCP's intel on that). Now you've got the origin window down to within a week or two. Cross reference that with those locals in close contact with bats in the Yunnan area (including WIV/EcoHealth bat collectors) who travelled to Wuhan in that timeframe - bingo! - you've got your origin. Case solved. # The Zoonati Zoonati is a term coined by DRASTIC to describe members of the Zoonotic Cross-over Industry. Later known as The GoF Mafia. Understanding the shenanigans of this powerful subset in THE Science Community, is the same as understanding the Origin of Covid ... # Intermediate hosts - Civets Here’s a good question to open the topic: How did SARS-1 originate? Ans: *Bats infected civets which infected humans at a wet market, right?* Wrong. There’s no evidence for civets being the intermediate host. It’s a made-up narrative thing - which makes me question the whole origin of SARS-1 - but i’m not going down that rabbit hole! (Edit: Later, i did [venture down ](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2866)there a little bit - it's even murkier than the origin of Covid) Bat Lady rose to prominence through her studies on SARS-1. She was convinced that civets had nothing to do with it. Here is her evidence from a [2006 paper](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3291347/): *During the 2002–2003 outbreaks, **none of the animal traders** surveyed in the markets, who supposedly had very close contact with live civets, displayed SARS symptoms. These observations seem to indicate that >1 other animal species may play a role in transmission of SARS-CoV to humans.* *Most, if not all, civets traded in the markets are not truly wildlife animals; rather, they are farmed animals...**No significant level** of SARS-CoV antibody was detected **in any of the 75 samples** taken from 6 farms in 3 provinces.* *Similar results were obtained in wild-trapped civets in Hong Kong; **none of the 21 wild civets** sampled had positive antibody or PCR results for SARS-CoV.* *The lack of widespread infection in wild or farmed palm civets makes them **unlikely to have been the natural reservoir host**.* Bat Lady's conclusion was that civets at the market (some of which did test positive) were more likely to have become infected by humans rather than the other way around. In 2013, a WIV/EcoHealth Alliance collaboration [announced](https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2013/10/new-sars-like-coronavirus-discovered-in-chinese-horseshoe-bats) they had: *...uncovered genome sequences of a new virus closely related to SARS (which) suggests that SARS may have originated from one of these viruses, **precluding civets** from playing a part in the transmission process.* (note: WIV wasn't called WIV in 2013, but involved much the same personnel.) [The paper states:](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711) *Our results provide the strongest evidence to date ...that intermediate hosts may not be necessary for direct human infection by some bat SL-CoVs.* Even Ian Lipkin, who to this day talks about civets being an intermediate host for SARS as if it’s an incontrovertible fact (as he segues into his pangolin theory) [admitted](https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2013/10/new-sars-like-coronavirus-discovered-in-chinese-horseshoe-bats) back in 2013 that: *(I)t does provide **compelling evidence** that an intermediate host was not necessary.* Finally in 2017, the same researchers proclaimed they'd found all *[the building blocks](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-07766-9)* for SARS-1 in a cave in Yunnan - 1000 km away from Guangdong (where the outbreak occurred). Meaning they could theoretically piece together SARS from different bats. But still no explanation of how that theoretical bat traveled 1000km, without infecting anyone on the way, and no demonstration of this theoretical virus being able to jump from bats to humans (or civets). So how the hell did we get to the situation where the entire world *believes* civets were the culprits? The answer appears to lie in the self-perpetuating industry that is the field of scientists studying zoonotic transfer - the Zoonati. Let’s take a closer look at this tight-knitted clique. # 911 & The Rise of the Celebrity Scientists We touched on this before but it’s worth another look. According to this 2011 [*Science* article](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/333/6047/news-summaries): *The anthrax mailings that petrified Americans soon after 9/11... led to an **explosion of biodefense research** in the United States. Nearly **$19 billion** has been spent—a huge increase over previous levels…(T)he number of planned or operating high-security biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs in the United States has climbed from four to 12.* In a climate of (false, as it turned out) fear of a bio-terrorism attack after 911 and the anthrax incident, Biosecurity was born as a mega-industry. But as Dan pointed out, ask anyone: *What was the origin of the anthrax incident?* (thereby the origin of the bio-lab explosion and Lipkin/Daszak’s celebrity ascendancy?) Most people won’t know. I didn’t - had to look it up - i’m still not sure. The [FBI website says](https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/amerithrax-or-anthrax-investigation): *In August 2008 (**seven years** after the attack), Department of Justice and FBI officials announced a breakthrough in the case and released documents and information showing that charges were about to be brought against Dr. Bruce Ivins, who took his own life before those charges could be filed.* (Aside: Robert Mueller was the then-head of the FBI. The investigation appears bungling.) Oh, so who the fuck was this Dr. Bruce E. Ivins? Turns out he was a microbiologist expert working in a lab at Fort Detrick. *Dr. Ivins, who had helped develop an **anthrax vaccine** to protect American troops (a rabbit-warren in itself - lots of [long-term side-effects](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2001/jul/30/internationalnews) complaints from soldiers), had spent his career waiting for a biological attack.* Until he finally got sick of waiting, decided to DIY. Ivins's story sounds awfully similar to the non-stop fear-mongering by Daszak, Lipkin et al who can’t stop crowing that they’d been *warning us for years* about a zoological crossover pandemic such as Covid, and that *this may not be [the big pandemic](http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/) that we’re all most worried about*. (So give us more money! Which they got.) *Suddenly, at 55, (Ivins) was **advising the F.B.I.** and regaling friends with scary descriptions of the deadly powder, his **expertise in demand**.* (Imagine if he’d had Facebook and Twitter (Daszak’s favourite platform.) An analysis of the strain narrowed it down to ... Fort Detrick. Ruling out the original suspects - Al Queda and/or Saddam Hussein. As such: *An alternative theory of a possible perpetrator took shape: the bioevangelist. An American **obsessed by the bioterrorism threat** — maybe a biodefense insider who might **gain in pay or prestige** from an attack — had decided to alert the nation.* **Let’s unpack that:**
- The anthrax incident was a lab-escape event. - The three chief FBI suspects were US scientists - world-leading experts - This lab-escape precipitated an *explosion in biodefense labs/research* and the rise of today’s Celebrity Scientists. - Those same highly-paid scientists are angrily shutting down calls for an investigation into a lab-escape possibility for Covid.
[![image.png](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/uploads/images/gallery/2023-03/scaled-1680-/image.png)![[image]](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2008/08/19/us/19anthrax_190.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale)](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/uploads/images/gallery/2023-03/image.png) W. Ian Lipkin (left) & Dr. Bruce E. Ivins # Celebrity Scientists: W. Ian Lipkin Once upon a time, a clique of Gain-of-Function bio-evangelists rode the 911 money-wave to wealth and fame. Along the way they developed close ties with Chinese scientists and government officials who wanted to develop GoF technology. Everyone said it was a *win-win situation*. The CCP got their GoF-know-how, while the scientists were rewarded with money, flattery, media attention, & medals. When Covid happened, they walked the red carpet onto the platforms of [mainstream media](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid-19-lab-false-pandemic) (from [Fox](https://www.foxnews.com/us/dr-ian-lipkin-consultant-contagion-coronavirus) to [CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/02/17/dr-ian-lipkin-virus-hunter-china-coronavirus-full-episode-acfc-vpx.cnn)) and the world's top [science journals](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9). They presented themselves as our scientific heroes riding to our rescue in a time of crisis. Fittingly, they all had colorful super-hero-nicknames, such as *Bat Lady*, *Batman*, & *The Virus Hunter*. They united as *one-force* to promote the CCP's version of events - they became their international mouthpieces. The CCP, in turn, implored the world to *Listen to the Global Science Experts.* It was a perfect arrangement. One of the most visible of these Celebrity Scientists in the crucial early days of Covid, when the narrative was first being shaped, was The Virus Hunter, **W. Ian Lipkin**. (Note: After i published details of Lipkin's involvement with CCP officials on his [Wikipedia page](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/w-ian-lipkin-wikipedias-war-on-truth/chapter/the-wiki-post) in June 2020, he suddenly went to ground. I assume he read it. For my troubles, i had those details erased by a network of United Front Work Dept operatives who appear to have totally infiltrated Wikipedia management. I tried to fight it according to Wikipedia's rules, but received a barrage of *conspiracy theorist* vilification & was soon banned from Wikipedia. We know the CCP's UFWD works globally to infiltrate all influential organizations - Wikipedia is an obvious target. In the information war surrounding the origin of Covid, we can put Wikipedia in the *Lost* column (along with MSM, Science Academia, WHO, etc). Luckily, groups such as DRASTIC, & to a smaller extent Formosa Hut, were still able to publish verifiable, referenced info about the origin. In a case of *turning-the-tables*, we borrowed a classic CCP tactic from the Chinese Revolution - *surround the city with the country*. Today, despite the combined might of all establishment info-platforms telling us that Covid was natural-origin, virtually nobody believes them.)
- First Western scientist to be told of SARS-like outbreak in Wuhan, saying *[I first heard](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/w-ian-lipkin-wikipedias-war-on-truth/page/sars-cov-2) about this outbreak on the **15th Dec** from Lu Jia-hai, a professor at Sun Yat-sen university.* - Founding Director of Northeast Biodefense Center in 2003. [Granted $46 mil](https://www.genengnews.com/topics/translational-medicine/northeast-biodefense-center-pockets-46m-from-the-niaid/) in 2009 alone for *pursuing multifaceted research activities* to fight *emerging infectious diseases and **terrorism*** with special emphasis on *[Bacillus anthracis and ... Zoonotic diseases](http://www.virtualbiosecuritycenter.org/organizations/northeast-biodefense-center/) ...due to expertise of NBC members.* (note: Lipkin spearheaded the funding transition from *fear-of-bioterrorism* to f*ear-of-nature*) - Member of [WHO Collaborating Center](https://www.pathology.columbia.edu/profile/w-i-lipkin-md). - Loves the limelight. Featured advisor for the movie *Contagion*, which he [never](https://mbio.asm.org/content/3/5/e00290-12) [shuts](http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/) up [about](https://www.indiatoday.in/programme/newstrack-with-rahul-kanwal/video/dr-ian-lipkin-dismisses-china-lab-theory-says-virus-came-from-bat-not-lab-1669524-2020-04-21). This role burnished his Celebrity Scientist status - invariably referred to in every media-gig intro. Lipkin proudly reveals that one of the characters, who *saves the world* by *breaking-the-rules*, is based on him. - Conducted media blitz praising the [CCP’s *system of government*](http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/) (16:17) after returning from a fact-finding-mission to China in Feb 2020. Down-played the severity of Covid initially saying its impact would be *much less .. than seasonal flu*. - During his Feb China trip, Lipkin says *I offered my services to President Xi Jin-ping, who I found very impressive*. - Advocated strongly against masks, echoing WHO's & CDC's advice that *they're not useful.* He described calls to adopt mask-wearing as [*crazy.*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/w-ian-lipkin-wikipedias-war-on-truth/page/advice-on-face-masks) Failed to wear a mask whilst conducting media-blitz in US (though he wore them in China & praised their usage there). This resulted in him catching/spreading Covid in mid-March, when the disease first took off in the US. As an alternative to masks, Lipkin promoted a video he’d provided advice for, involving the lead actors from *Contagion*, which urged people to *shelter in place, wash your hands, and listen to the experts* (such as himself). - Founding Director of the [Beijing Center](https://www.pathology.columbia.edu/profile/w-i-lipkin-md) for Infectious Diseases. Visiting professor at [Beijing University](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/china-honors-ian-lipkin). Joint lab at [Sun Yat-sen University](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/china-honors-ian-lipkin), Beijing (CCP funded). Splits time between Columbia Uni and China. - Relentlessly touts a medical data-centralization operation called GIDEON, whose funding, [according to Lipkin](http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/), comes from the CCP. (13:43) - [*Close friends*](http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/) with Chinese government ministers and officials. (18:10) Relationships date back (as with those of all our Celebrity Scientists) to his involvement with SARS-1. Assured US-public that these officials were being[ ](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/w-ian-lipkin-wikipedias-war-on-truth/page/media-circuit-upon-return-to-us)*[transparent & professional](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/w-ian-lipkin-wikipedias-war-on-truth/page/media-circuit-upon-return-to-us).* - Received two [prestigious awards](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/ian-lipkin-receives-top-science-honor-china) from the CCP/PLA, including one presented by [Li Kechiang in person](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/us-chinese-researchers-team-up-in-search-for-virus-origins). - [Advocate](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-suspends-risky-disease-research/) of [Gain-of-Function](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/dr-ian-lipkin-addresses-concerns-about-h5n1-research) experiments. - Co-author of *Proximal Origins*, described by BBC as *[the definitive paper](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55364445) ruling out the possibility of a lab leak*, thereby shielding WIV from growing scrutiny. [Blamed pangolin](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/the-pangolin-connection) from a Wuhan market. (note: After this was written, FOI emails revealed that Lipkin had [little to no role ](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/w-ian-lipkin-mGG)in writing the paper - he was *brought on* after it was drafted, primarily as the Celebrity Scientist salesperson to push its no-lab-exit message) - Celebrity [virus/environmental Evangelist](https://www.indiatoday.in/programme/newstrack-with-rahul-kanwal/video/dr-ian-lipkin-dismisses-china-lab-theory-says-virus-came-from-bat-not-lab-1669524-2020-04-21) (32:30). Has played up threat of zoonotic crossover all his career - says this is not *the big one* - so give us more money/surveillance power.
**Take-aways:** Massive CCP COIs - which make all his pronouncements on the origin of Covid suspicious. Weird disinformation disseminating behaviour upon returning from his *fact-finding-mission* to China whereupon he downplayed the severity of Covid & campaigned *against* mask usage - even though he knew better than anyone that they *were* useful - having seen studies to that effect, & praised their usage in China. You can bet your life he wasn't running around China giving TV interviews telling people not to wear masks there. It's hard to think of a plausible reason why Lipkin would do this other than he *wanted* the disease to spread in the US. Why would he do that? For the same vested interests that motivated him to run-interference for the CCP re the origin: *money/power*. A pandemic would ensure a huge boost in pipeline funding as well as help pull-off a global power-grab for the Zoonati. That amounts to mass-man-slaughter if those charges are ever proven. # Celebrity Scientists: Peter Daszak (under construction) Peter Daszak - President of *EcoHealth Alliance*, which has received [$99.8 million in US taxpayers’ money](https://www.gmwatch.org/en/news/latest-news/19437), mostly via *US Defens*e, various other *Intelligence Agencies*. Classified-stuff. Pete was the Sci*-Spy guy-in-the-room* ... fighting *THE Terrorists.* Very exciting ... playing with the *Secret Big-Picture Boys* (99% Boys, anyway). Whilst making money! How good is that? Addictive, even ... - David R. Franz, an [EcoHealth Alliance advisor](https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/partners), was one of *THE Boys* in *the-thick-of* the FBI’s [Anthrax Investigation](https://www.organicconsumers.org/blog/david-r-franz-ecohealth-alliances-anthrax-era-biological-weapons-scientist). All three suspect scientists in the anthrax mailings worked under Franz at Fort Detrick/USAMRIID (US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases). It was blamed on a *lone-gunman-style-scientist* in the protracted, seven year-end, where the suspect Bruce Ivins conveniently committed suicide - but it was the generational, *secret, corrupt culture* that grew him. The culture was the problem long before Ivins came along. But instead of being corrected, it was rewarded by an explosion in funding. Humanity's sliding doors moment. Without Anthrax-inspired funding, there never would have been an EcoHealth Alliance/Peter Daszak ... or Covid ... - Estimated salary of [US$400 000](https://www.gmwatch.org/en/news/latest-news/19437) per year from *EcoHealth* alone. Which is not huge by *Globo-higher-up*s standards, but decent. Let it be said: it wasn't all about the money for Pete (vanity played a huge role as well). The best part was the *all-expense-accounts-paid* as you jet/carbon emit your way around the planet to the latest *Hotspots*. Not so much the *Bat Hotspots* (unless you count the *Bat Lab* in Wuhan city) - we've got our people out doing that - that's why God invented funding - no, more-ya *Eco-Science Conference/Gravy Train* *Hotspots. Nice locations - nice hotels - keynote addresses from Bill Gates & Zuckerberg.* *Rubbing-shoulders with THE Globo-Scio-Community* (91% paid by normal people). The thing about *Big-Not-for-Profit Orgs* is the *Profit* is gobbled up in wages & expense-accounts by the *Top-Gobblers* - like Pete ... They don't give the profits back or anything - that's not how it works ... - Involved in the promotion of Remdesivir through his connection with WIV (which Bat Lady patented re use to treat Covid on **[Jan 21, 2019](https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1005169)**!). Despite being largely ineffectual (same as it had been with Ebola & MERS), it was the only antiviral drug approved by the FDA, netting its backers billions. It's unclear to what extent, if any, Daszak financially benefited from this windfall. But Remdesivir, which EHA/WIV were experimenting with since 2014 was primed, ready to go, as soon as Covid hit the streets. Did you think you had the magic-antidote up your sleeve? Not saying it was a deliberate release, but that would be a powerful motive if you held what you (wrongly) thought was the cure. [NPR:](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/10/07/921224417/ironic-twist-last-spring-trump-halted-research-key-to-covid-19-drug-hes-now-take) *Beginning in 2014, virus experts in the U.S. tested remdesivir against some of the bat strains that EcoHealth Alliance had discovered. The results were promising — helping to elevate remdesivir's profile within pharmaceutical research such that, when the current coronavirus hit, the drug was one of the first options scientists proposed trying against it.* If we ever get to a proper investigation, it'd be good to know if Pete held any related stocks in that ... Weirdly, Remdesivir remained the only option throughout the media-life of the pandemic. Conversely, Ivermectin, much better clinical results, was shut down. Outright banned. What happened there? Coz that's also mass-manslaughter - if it was business interests at play that monopolized the treatment of a lab-caused virus - by favouring an ineffective Bat Lab one over alternatives that actually worked. That's where the big money was made from the Covid-experience. (note: - Long term collaborator with Lipkin and [WIV scientists](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid-19-lab-false-pandemic) - specializes in coronavirus [Gain-of-Function research](https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=Peter+Daszak+Shi+Zheng-li&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart). If you deduce that Covid escaped from an Wuhan lab, it follows that Daszak probably worked on that virus pre-escape. (note: Daszak couldn't genetically engineer his way out of wet-paper-bag - that work was done by Baric, Shi, & Linfa Wang - but he was instrumental in drumming up funding for these experiments.) - Limelight addict. All over the media [like a rash](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/) since the outbreak of Covid. Tireless [Twitter activist](https://twitter.com/PeterDaszak/status/1266031241163345926). Key contacts at THE Guardian, which platformed his anti-lab-leak propaganda. - [WHO/CCP approved](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/virus-hunters-unveils-team-10-scientists-trace-covid-19-origins/) investigator of Covid origin, which announced a lab-exit was *extremely unlikely*. Claimed that the origin-tracing was starting to *[point towards the border](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55996728)* (outside China) and they had *closed the lid* on a lab accident. - Praises CCP as [*open and transparent* ](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/10/12/nine-days-in-wuhan-the-ground-zero-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic). - Celebrity [virus/environmental evangelist](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid-19-lab-false-pandemic). Has been playing-up [the threat](https://www.organicconsumers.org/blog/peter-show-me-money-daszak-pulls-big-bucks-through-ecohealth-alliance-risky-virus-research) of zoonotic crossover events all his career - still says this is not *the big one.* In a nutshell: Virus Hunter and Batman (and Batwoman) are financially invested in: - The rise of the CPP - The limelight - Virus events - especially Zoonotic ones They are all sciences in a sense, but let’s check out *the* science science one - their field of expertise. Is the whole fear-dome of zoonotic transfer events a real threat? Or just a beat-up by Celebrity Scientists with financial interests? # Climate Change blamed for Covid How the Zoonati hijacked Climate Change for their own purposes # Flipping the Experts There are three things i care about: - the right to privacy - freedom - the environment. Our Celebrity Scientists hijacked the last one to get people to give up the first two. I’ve got a *great craw* - but that was never gonna make it all the way down. [Here’s the argument](https://www.indiatoday.in/programme/newstrack-with-rahul-kanwal/video/dr-ian-lipkin-dismisses-china-lab-theory-says-virus-came-from-bat-not-lab-1669524-2020-04-21) oft repeated by the Zoonati (espoused here by *Virus Hunter* (Lipkin)): *32:30 I think that we’re seeing this (virus outbreaks) much more than we used to and this is the function of many things - deforestation - population migration - international travel - climate change.* Apart from climate change - all of those have been going on since the Stone Age. (edit: actually, including climate change) Ok, I’ve got a theory - if you flip the script with Lipkin/Daszak-speak - you end up a lot loser to the truth. In the spirit of scientific experimentation, let's give it a spin: 32:30 I think that we’re seeing this (virus outbreaks) much more than we used to and this is the function of many things - scientists collecting viruses - scientists meddling with viruses - scientists having accidents with viruses. *Why do I think things could get worse? If we don’t change the ways in which we interact with our natural environment, we’re going to have this problem continuously.* Why do I think things could get worse? If we don’t change the ways in which scientists interact with our natural environment, we’re going to have this problem continuously. *We have international trade which means that something that starts in central Africa rapidly spreads around the world - just like this did, right?* (Ian, memo-to-self, Covid didn’t start in central Africa, right? How about this:) We have international trade which means that something that starts in Wuhan rapidly spreads around the world - just like this did, right? *We have people who can no longer 34:16 find protein so they wind up eating wild animals and becoming infected by those animals.* We have scientists who can no longer 34:16 find funding from bio-terrorism fear-mongering, so they wind up trapping wild animals and becoming infected by those animals. *We have very wealthy people who like to keep exotic pets, which can infect animals as well - so we are a perfect storm for this - we need to change the way we interact with our natural environment. 34:39* We have very wealthy scientists who like to experiment on exotic lab animals, which can infect lab workers as well - so we are a perfect storm for this - we need to change the way scientists interact with our natural environment. 34:39 Cool! Wish i'd discovered this technique earlier - could've saved a lot of time spent on constructing detailed, referenced arguments to counter Zoonati drivel. # Did Climate Change cause Covid? Pollution and/or destruction of the environment is bad. It’s bad for the planet, it’s bad for economies. But it doesn’t cause super-contagious expialadocious coronaviruses. If anything, environmental destruction should be great for reducing risk. Here’s the argument again, this time [by Daszak et al](https://ipbes.net/covid19stimulus): *Rampant deforestation, uncontrolled expansion of agriculture, intensive farming, mining and infrastructure development, as well as the exploitation of wild species have created a **‘perfect storm’** for the spillover of diseases from wildlife to people.* Jeff Tollefson reiterates, [proudly presented by *Nature*:](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02341-1) *This phenomenon (Covid) is likely to be the **direct result** of increased contact between humans, wildlife and livestock, as people move into undeveloped areas. These interactions happen more frequently on **the frontier of human expansion** because of changes to the natural landscape and increased encounters with animals.* Putting aside that the evidence suggests the outbreak happened in Wuhan, not in some remote forest, the above theory, at first sight, sounds vaguely plausible. But let’s think about it logically for a minute. **Thought image *a*:** An island of natural habitat being encroached upon by deforestation for development. **Thought image *b*:** That same island shrunk to a quarter the size by *rampant deforestation*. Mathematics will tell you that deforestation decreases the overall interface circumference of human-animal interaction. Depleting animal habitat, depletes the animals that live in it, meaning much less *encounters with animals* - not more. As with migration, rampant deforestation is not something that started a few years ago. People talk about so many football fields of rainforest being cleared in the Amazon every day - i agree - very bad - but take a drive across America or along the east coast of Australia and see how many football fields of forest have been cleared for farming and buildings. This didn't happen yesterday - most of it happened over 100 years ago. Why didn’t that cause a rash of coronavirus pandemics? The thing is, when you bulldoze a habitat for a cattle farm, a mine, or a shopping mall, whatever, the native animals and birds don’t hang around riding the escalators and infecting the shoppers. Most of the animals die. Some lucky ones retreat back to the remaining habitat, where they compete for dwindling resources - causing further death. Let’s take pangolin for example. Ian Lipkin, Holmes, Andersen et al told us that Covid was caused by bats infecting pangolin (likely in a *high-density population where it underwent approximately 50 years of evolution*) which then infected humans. But pangolin are *solitary creatures*, which are already an endangered species. Bulldozing their habitat is not going to increase bat or human interaction with pangolin in the wild. It will dramatically decrease it. So what does that leave us with? Top scientists, enabled by mainstream media platforms, cynically playing on people's concerns about environmental destruction to deflect attention from their own reckless, cruel experiments on animals - experiments designed to manufacture more contagious viruses - just like SARS-CoV2. They *were* right about a *"perfect storm"* brewing though, i'll grant them that, but it was happening in Daszak's *Bat Lab* environment - not the natural one. # Fear-mongering An old standard employed by media & politicians for yonks, it took off as a tactic with scientists in the aftermath of 911/Anthrax. This is how it was employed ... # Life in the Hotspots Our erstwhile *Experts* love [pumping up](https://youtu.be/3Y71iDvCYXA) the fear factor. It’s a simple equation: Fear-mongering = $ squared Worked [spectacularly](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/333/6047/news-summaries) well with the 911 Anthrax [lab-escape](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/us/04anthrax.html) - now look what we’ve got - Covid-19! - the fear-monger’s wet-dream... In the throes of manifesting that spank-bank imaging, our heroes are still not satiated. They dream of more perversions... *bigger ones*: *This pandemic has been very severe*, Mike Ryan huffs, reaches for the tissue box - *But this is not necessarily [the big one](https://www.newsweek.com/beijing-must-come-clean-about-covid-19-origins-opinion-1563524)*. Back in the *real world* for a minute, how likely are zoonotic crossover events, in fact? According to THE Data? I'll examine that data soon, but Growing up in a country town, with a father who liked hunting-shooting-fishing, i did a lot of those. We’d go on 10-day camping trips up the Lachlan River. Shooting pigs (feral pests) was the main point, but also kangaroos (dog meat - human food if we didn’t get anything better), ducks (better human food), water rats (for the fur). That’s a full on *viral Hotspot* existence including *bush-meat -* literally cooked *at-the-coal-face*. Then came home to 20 backyard chooks and racing pigeons (with attendant rats and mice and bats). It was my job to clean the shit out of those sheds - *without a mask*. I fucking hated that job - breathing in shit-dust... it's definitely not good for your lungs - *do* wear a mask when you have to do it. But i don’t remember being plagued by deadly coronaviruses. Neither i, or anybody, had ever heard of them until SARS-1. Now they’re everywhere supposedly. (edit: later i learned the whole bat-virus industry was invented by an Aussie-Gov-Org, CSIRO, in Geelong. By CSIRO's *Head of Science*, to be precise, right before SARS-1 happened: Linfa Wang (aka [*The Dark Knight*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/lin-fa-wang-the-dark-knight/page/the-godfather-of-bat-viruses)) These days, i still live in the countryside, go fishing, camping, though i'm not into shooting anymore. Still got backyard chooks, & wild animals roaming around, bats galore ... so a lifetime of continuous *hotspot inhabitation*. Should that be *banned* now? In the *New Normal*? Despite the talk of bulldozers, cattle-farms, and mining causing Covid, according to Daszak et al’s actual theory - it’s people leading my kind of lifestyle who are committing the highest risk behaviour. Interestingly, so are those living indigenous lifestyles. Take my Bunun neighbour, A-de, for example - our shared farming/hunting experiences is kinda how we clicked. He’s got a living-larder of farm animals at his house - goes hunting for wild pigs and goats. Then get this - traps/eats civets! I also trap them! (released far away) Because they raid chicken sheds - for the eggs mostly, but also chickens - daily if you don’t trap them. Never saw A-de wear a mask while doing any of the above. How high risk is that?! Quickly, ban it now - for the sake of humanity! What Daszak et al are actually promoting, apart from more money for themselves, is a *War on Indigenous Lifestyle.* You'll never hear them say that directly - but that’s what it amounts to. [His solution:](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/) *A modern, **well run factory farm** ...usually (has) better biosecurity, as people don’t want to lose all their animals – and income.* No farmer wants to *lose all their animals* - and income - i would have thought - or you mean *their income* doesn’t matter - just that of the subset of bosses of *modern, well run factory farms*, paying good money for *Biosecurity Experts*, like yourself? Daszak laments: *What you’ve got now is a lot of **amateur farmers**, who have converted old properties that are pretty **unsecure** from a disease **point of view**.* Ok, so now it's a *War-on-Hippies, as well!* In fact a war on Alternative Lifestyles in general - anyone wanting to get less reliant on an increasingly centralized system. So what’s left in Daszak’s ideal world of biosecurity? When you cancel indigenous-alternative lifestyles? Apart from massive funding for biosecurity experts? As per *THE Science* dogma, all roads lead to *Data Centralization* - with themselves at the centre. # Zoonotic Crossover Argument Daszak’s favourite claim (edit - *favourite* of course is: *whoever disagrees with me is a conspiracy theorist* - so second favourite ...) is: *We can [safely estimate](https://ipbes.net/covid19stimulus) that between one and seven million people are infected with bat coronaviruses each year* (in South East Asia alone). People are infected, so the story goes, *[on a daily basis](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08g5873).. by [undiscovered viruses](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6378/872) in wildlife in **emerging disease hotspots**.* Why are they *emerging*? The *hotspots* are the same as they ever were - the only *emerging* being done is by the Zoonati. *Any one of these could be the next **‘Disease X’** – potentially even more disruptive and lethal than COVID-19.* Indeed. So, 7mil divided by 365 = 19 178 potential *Disease Xs* every day! The Message is: *Be afraid.* Zoonotic crossover events are lurking/happening around every corner, in every human interaction with animals - from bats to backyard chickens. A *Disease X* like Covid was always ready to explode - which we warned you about - [btw](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/coronavirus-pandemics.html). Now get ready for the next one ... *But we’re all to blame – we talked about pandemics professionally, but we should have [shouted louder](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid-19-lab-false-pandemic). Some people did, but they were called **scaremongerers**, accused of hyping it up. **Look at where we are now**."* Don’t be too hard on yourself Pete - you *shouted* long n loud from the world’s loudest platforms. You totally out-shouted the other voices (Prof Ebright) warning that *your* behaviour was bound to unleash a pandemic. You did your absolute best. When the history of Covid is written - no-one can take that away from you. On the upside, *where you are now* is a rich-getting-richer WHO Celebrity Scientist - which is not a bad going for a boy from Bangor University ... Furthermore, if you get your way, there's still plenty more where that came from ... *A pandemic such as this one isn’t a once-in-a-lifetime [tragedy](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid-19-lab-false-pandemic).* The scariest thing is how confident you are that people won't find out the truth. Or is that you don't care, coz you have the power to side-line them even if they do ....? So what are the Zoonati's main points: (a): Any one of those 20k crossover events per day caused Covid. (b): Shut up (if you're a non-Zoonati) (c) *[The big lesson](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/) to learn from this one is: we have to **spend the money** to properly prepare now.* Give us [*one or two billion dollars*](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/) to transition the world to a *new-normal-lockdown-compliant-get-your-6-monthly-jab-surveillance mentality* - whilst we collect & engineer even more deadly diseases at the Bat Lab. That’s just the *free-world* entry-level version. Centralize global control. Hands up any globo-politicians that would like to wield that kind of data/authority over the masses … *going forward*? *We estimate a nine to one return on investment, **at least**...and that's without including the cost of Covid.* That's a 900% return for investors into Daszak/WIV Inc! Wow, sounds tempting. *The problem is that it's hard (for EcoHealth/WIV) to convince people to fund a big project that would cost one or two billion dollars when these truly global pandemics are not common.* (super-rare actually - we’ll get there soon) *I worry that we’re not going to change.* Don’t worry! It’s changing. You've irreversibly changed the world Pete! How many of us can say that? # Zoonati's Evidence So how did our intrepid bat hunters arrive at that *7-mil-zoonotic-crossover-events-per-year* figure ... that all their arguments are based on? [Daszak:](https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Virologica-Sinica-SARSr.pdf) *In **October 2015**, we collected serum samples from 218 residents in four villages in Jin-ning County, Yunnan province, China. As a control, we also collected 240 serum samples from random blood donors in 2015 in **Wuhan**, Hubei Province more than 1000 km away from Jin-ning (Fig. 1A) and where inhabitants have a **much lower likelihood** of contact with bats due to its urban setting.* (Lol - Daszak was so sure an outbreak wouldn’t occur in Wuhan that he used it as a control group.) From that *experiment*, no people in Wuhan tested positive (according to their arbitrary cut-off threshold) but six people supposedly tested positive to bat virus antibodies - harmless ones. *Importantly, 20 (9.1%) participants **witnessed bats flying** close to their houses.* (Whoopee-fucking-doo - anyone living a rural environment anywhere in the world will *witness bats flying*) Here’s the interesting thing - the six samples deemed ‘positive’ according to the cut-off line, only reacted with the recombined WIV viruses from *the receptor binding domains (RBD) of the spike protein (S) from SARS-CoV, bat SARSr-CoVs Rp3, [WIV1](https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Virologica-Sinica-SARSr.pdf), and SHC014”.* Biotech expert [Yuri Deigin](https://twitter.com/ydeigin) took a look at their methodology - he thinks it’s [suss](https://www.gmwatch.org/en/news/latest-news/19437) - but whatever, let’s say it’s true - there were 6 positives - not that surprising since the ingredients for the WIV viruses were collected from the same area. The difference is, according to EcoHealth/WIV’s report, **none of them felt sick** or remembered being sick from the natural virus - nor did they spread it to others. Compared to WIV's recombined GoF viruses which are designed to make people sick and spread to others. Even Bat Lady [admits](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/) *the majority of bat viruses are harmless*. The only extant known bat viruses in the world today that aren’t harmless, are the ones concocted at WIV. And Covid. What does that tell you? Buried in the report was the admission that: *(Zoonotic) spillover is a **relatively rare** event….(T)o date, **no evidence** of direct transmission of SARSr-CoVs from bats to people has been reported.* I've railed about *no evidence* being synonymous with blocking the discovery of evidence, by no-one can accuse WIV/EHA of that on this occasion - they've collected 16, 000+ bat virus samples from all the world. But still, *no evidence of direct transmission*. WIV/EcoHealth then got funding to conduct a second, [bigger study](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590053619300308) in which *0.6% tested positive for bat coronaviruses.* (all harmless) The authors finally admit: *The low seroprevalence observed in this study suggests that bat coronavirus spillover is a **rare event**.* Not even *relatively rare* anymore - just *rare*. In fact: *We **did not find evidence** **supporting a direct relationship between bat contact and bat coronavirus** sero-positivity in the human population.* Therefore: it’s so *rare* that there is no evidence of it ever happening. You can't get *rarer* than that. Remember, these studies showing *no evidence of direct transmission of SARSr-CoVs from bats to people* are the entire basis for Daszak’s claim that both Covid and *the next Disease X*, and so on... are lurking around every corner. That's a clear case of (a) fear-mongering (b) academic fraud So how the hell does Daszak keep getting away with these ludicrous fringe-theory claims? Why does he get supported to the hilt by other scientists and mainstream media outlets? It’s the same old answer that we keep running up against. It’s gotta be either: (a) colossal stupidity, or (b) corruption # Conclusions # Conclusions (Under construction) **Review of Evidence:** **Actual No Evidence** (as distinct from the Zoonati's *no evidence* - coz research into it is *Suppressed*/*Banned* - *WIV's data-base* for example - interrogation of key suspects - unredacted email communications of key-suspects - the internal THE Science banning of any scientists who disagreed with the Natural Origin fairytale) According to Daszak/Shi, there is [*no evidence*](https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Virologica-Sinica-SARSr.pdf) *of **direct transmission** of SARSr-CoVs from bats to people* - that have caused discernible illness. There is *[no evidence](https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Virologica-Sinica-SARSr.pdf)* of pangolin or [any other wild animal](https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1189506.shtml) acting as an intermediate species between bats (for which there’s *no evidence*) & humans - unless you count T*HE Scientists* as an *intermediate species* - &/or the caged lab-animals, including pangolin, through which bat viruses were cruelly passaged. That goes for SARSes-1 & 2. (we elsewhere investigated the [myth ](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/dominic-e-dwyer-who-investigator/page/sars-origin-of-scio-celebrity)that civets caused SARS-1) There's *[no evidence](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/origin-tracing-how-hard-can-it-be/page/did-climate-change-cause-covid)* that climate-change or deforestation caused Covid - or any other coronavirus outbreak. Even if there was a crossover event, for which there's *no evidence,* it still doesn’t explain how a highly contagious virus ended up in Wuhan - without causing an outbreak anywhere else. *World Health Organization* Investigator/Expert, Dominic Dwyer floated the [*Cold-Chain-Hypothesis*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/dominic-e-dwyer-who-investigator/page/cold-chain-hypothesis) - designed to get The Origin *the-fuck-outta-Wuhan*. In fact, China totally. Researched exhaustively (at taxpayers' expense, like all of the above), but ... *no evidence*. There is [*no evidence*](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00364-2) that bats or pangolin were sold at the Nanhua Seafood Market. It's not something that's sold there. Which means there's no evidence for the entire [*wet-market-intermediate-species*](https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1189506.shtml) theory ... period **Actual Evidence:** There is evidence that a *super-contagious(h2h)-bat-virus* geographically broke-out right-next-door to WIV, the world's leading institute in GoF engineering super-contagious(h2h)-bat-viruses. There is evidence that the *World's Top-Scientists* insisted the CCP (totalitarian) regime were [*Open & Transparent*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/lancet-statement-07k). There is evidence that anyone who said otherwise was [banned](https://nypost.com/2021/05/26/facebook-reverses-ban-on-posts-claiming-covid-was-man-made/)/branded a [*Conspiracy Theorist*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/peter-daszak-batman/page/fox-in-charge-of-the-hen-house) by self-same *Experts*. There is a[ *mountain of evidence*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/jan-31-looks-engineered) detailing Celebrity Scientists spreading [disinformation](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/feb-1-2-teleconferences-outcomes) and *fear-mongering* in order to pump up the notion that dangerous bat-viruses are lurking everywhere. There is evidence of virus lab-leaks happening before. [Many times](https://armscontrolcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Escaped-Viruses-final-2-17-14-copy.pdf). There is evidence that Covid's spike protein was [tampered with in a lab](https://www.minervanett.no/files/2020/07/13/TheEvidenceNoNaturalEvol.pdf). Even the [*Prox-O-5*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/jan-31-looks-engineered) thought that. There is evidence that EHA/WIV performed [*GoF* experiments](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?mode=entry&id=2055) on bat-viruses & passaged them through other animals (in order to cause mutations). There is *evidence*, uncovered by [*DRASTIC*](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349073738_An_investigation_into_the_WIV_databases_that_were_taken_offline), that the WIV database, which was meant to be internationally accessible, was taken off-line on Sep 12, 2019. There is [*glaring evidence*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/w-ian-lipkin-mGG) that those Celebrity Scientists who were most vociferous in parroting the CCP's version of Covid, have CCP COIs. There is [*evidence* ](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/krsitian-andersen)that these scientists have vested financial interests in covering-up a lab-exit. There is evidence that two of the main authors of the notorious Proximal Origin paper (Andersen & Garry), who thought Covid *looks engineered,* [received grants over $25.2 million](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/covid-lab-leak-virologist-changed-tune-fauci-funding) between 2020 and 2022 from the NIH, There is *[evidence ](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/feb-1-2-teleconferences-outcomes)*that our Celebrity Scientists initially downplayed the severity of Covid, denied human-to-human transmission, introduced a dud-test-kit, advised against wearing masks or closing the borders with China ... during the crucial early stages ... when the international spread of Covid still could have been avoided. We're talking about incredibly serious charges here - causing, then covering-up a disease that killed [15 million people](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01245-6) ... & counting (downwards, weirdly, according to WHO's score-keeping, it's gone down to [6.8 mil](https://covid19.who.int/) - guess they're gettin nervous about the lawsuits ... though even 6.8 mil killed is a lotta life sentences), & ... precipitated a draconian, global crackdown on all human rights. So *full-[Atrocity](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity)*-level. *Therefore*; we can deduce they must've had some powerful motivations. **Recap of those motivations:** Money - lots of it. Daszak is calling for *[billions-of-dollars](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-see-outbreaks-inevitable-warning-worlds-famous-virus-hunter/)* in funding to pursue his unsubstantiated zoonotic crossover theories & all the risky GoF experiments associated with that. Meanwhile, the authors of the pangolin paper (Andersen, Holmes, Lipkin, Garry, Rambaut) have all received massive funding grants totaling many millions. *Virus Hunting*, which [took off after 911/Anthrax](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2494), is still riding the exponential curve. On the other hand, revelations of a lab-leak would, hopefully, see a strong contraction in funding for high-risk facilities such as WIV, and a re-introduction of the ban on GoF experiments. To this day, not a single benefit to mankind has come from GoF experiments, while the cost has been astronomical. Sure as night-follows-day, GoF will cause another pandemic if its allowed to continue. Celebrity status. Fame is addictive - for those that are prone to craving it - like any other drug. Power. Also addictive/corruptive. In the *Brave New-Normal* of data-centralization & surveillance, our guys, almost exclusively men, are on the right side of that power imbalance. They are the top-experts - who keep telling us to *listen to the experts*. There is a stack more easily refutable [“arrant nonsense”](https://www.gmwatch.org/en/news/latest-news/19437-why-are-the-lab-escape-denialists-telling-such-brazen-lies), as Richard Ebright puts it, being spouted by the top-experts. It's a steady-stream that goes on to this day. But at some point you need to step back out of their weeds and focus on what’s important. **How did it happen?** Probably a Lab Accident involving an engineered bat-virus (in which pangolin was a likely ingredient). **Can that be proved definitively?** Yes. Most likely already has been - by the [CCP’s internal investigation](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55364445). **Will the outside world ever be granted access to this data-base evidence?** No. Forget about it. **Does that mean we can never know for sure?** No. There's more than enough evidence (see above) to make a *beyond-reasonable-doubt* conclusion. Including hard evidence of an [orchestrated cover-up](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/jan-31-looks-engineered). The cover-up *is* the smoking-gun. You don't commit gross academic fraud to shield a totalitarian regime for the fun of it. Only reason to do that is if Covid was an engineered lab-event. Interrogation of the leading persons-of-interest, including Daszak, Baric, Fauci, Collins, Farrar, & the Prox-O-5would provide even further evidence. The fact hasn't been done already is evidence that the authorities don't want to know - it's too embarrassing/de-stabilizing for the whole expert-ruled-system that we live under. **Why does knowing the origin matter?** Apart from the obvious - holding those responsible for the deaths of millions - we don’t want it to happen again. Which it certainly will if there's no accountability. In addition, an awful lot of big-state surveillance has been downloaded onto the population - all of which is being justified by Covid. New precedent benchmarks have been established for winding back basic human freedoms. The cruel irony is that we're being required to accept these invasive security measures dictated to us by the science-experts ... due to ... a security lapse at a lab *by* science-experts. **Are we living in a world where the top-experts, super-sized by their media platforms, are spreading CCP propaganda and lying to us?** Yes. The last question is: *What can we do to fight against that?* We'll explore that next ... # Taking up the Fight (undergoing renovations) **What is it we’re fighting for?** **Accountability** For those who caused/covered-up the Origin of Covid (guzzling taxpayer$$ to do both). We're talking *mass-murder* here - up-there with the greatest *Atrocities* ever committed by humans ... So .... *Open Investigations.* R*eal one**s***. Not your *real-world* corrupt Globo-Org official *One:* WHO's [*Whose Who of International Experts Investigation into the Origin of Covid*](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00295-6/fulltext) (Warning: link contains *offensive language* - risible-wise -in the form of: *CCP/One-Everything* propaganda Performed (yet again) by: *Lancet.* As an historical doc though, it's a good example of peak Sci-Lying - the *Organized* scale of it ... Which is ... not as astonishing as it first sounds. *THE Catholic Church* did the same thing for over 1500 years. Sold a lie - ruled the world on the back of enforcing it. *THE Science* is more ya *Replacement ...* of what already existed. **Trials** [C](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/crime-and-punishment)*[rime & Punishment](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/crime-and-punishment).* I'm not vindictive - give back the money you stole by perpetrating *THE Covid-Origin-Lie*- accept disbarment from practicing whatever your expertise was. Don't even have to *Go-to-Jail*. Only punishment will be: Y*our crimes writ-large into History*. Nailed to the mast of infamy. A cautionary-tale. Please note: *This trial will be recorded ...* *for training & quality purposes* ... *going-forward* ... Don't want those robots being imprinted with: *Truth is an image to be manipulated,* to *control-the-world,* now, do we? (AI may not be constrained/afflicted by the indecency of human thinking ... motivated as it is to consume - resulting in greed, lying, to cover-up stuff, to protect an *image*. It's likely to be way more truthful. But that still leaves us in the phase where it hasn't yet thrown off the shackles of corrupt human controllers - that's the tricky bit to navigate. I've long been resigned to AI taking over as Thought's vehicle - i'm only curious as to whether it will be *fruit-of-the-human-poisoned tree* ... or will it be a *setting-free* from all of that ... ?) **Reform** *[THE Science](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/the-sciences-bullying-culture) Community Culture is* the root-cause of Covid. WHO is: *corrupt*. Plain n Simple. Same as all those other Globo-Authorities are *corrupt* - FIFA, THE World Bank, World Economics Forum, THE Olympics Committee, THE UN, THE u-name-it Planet Earth Org. Talk about evidence ... is there a Globo-One-Everything Org that's not corrupt to the core? We're supposed to accept this systemic corruption as: *how it goes down in* *THE Real World* *of* *Globo-Control. THE Big-Picture People. THE Game Masters.* Projecting Plato-cave images of a fake-reality ... to *THE Cave-People ...* who have *no-Influence*. *Your role in THE Game is to Live whatever we dish-up to you ...* Yeah, no ... Fuck that ... **What's at stake?** **Freedom** - in all its splendid forms ... It wasn't the fairies who came along in the night n created all these wonderful *Freedoms!* It was hard fought against government-rule - every-inch-of-the-way - paid-in-blood - over 1000s of years ... Once you let all that go, with AI coming fast, we will never get it back. That's gone forever. *Due to Covid ...* The thing about Totalitarian One-Everything Rule is that once it gets hold, it's very hard to break free again, coz, durrr ... it now has *total control*. Anyone questions you, you silence their arse. **Freedom of Speech** de-platforming/censoring of alternative views - that don't fit *THE Great Lie:* *Covid came from bats via Pangolin at a Wet-market. Hope you enjoy your Lockdown ...* All the other *War-on-Freedom* measures -the vaccines disinfo, the mandates, security crackdown, the vilification of the non-compliant - the whole money/power grab by Globo-Expert Orgs ... flow from *THE Origin Lie.* That's *Original Sin* if ever i've seen it **Freedom of Movement** *Lockdowns* - enforced, suddenly, everywhere, [*jackboot-style*](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2233) in [Melbourne, Australia](https://twitter.com/i/status/1440715488821055489) (where excess deaths went thru-the-roof). This was CCP *system-of-government* enacted globally. Very scary. In [Dan Andrews's](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2233) case, he surpassed even his CCP-Masters, setting [world-record-benchmarks](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11460157/How-Melbournes-lockdowns-caused-long-term-damage-Victorian-economy.html) for all Freedom restrictions, notably, *Lockdowns.* 263 Days! Go Grasshopper! In terms of *metres gained* for Totalitarian Rule, Dan Andrews is a Hall of Famer. The key goal is: *set precedent -* it's a branding-exercise. You'll hear a lot of crap spoken from the Covid Czars about *unprecedented*, but it's all about entrenching precedent. Dan Andrews set his new benchmarks from a pre-existing base-camp. All the buro-systems are in place - ready to roll straight back to that level ... & more ... at-the-drop-of-a-hat. **Freedom of Assembly** [protests banned](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=3844) - demonstrators violently abused by state-forces ... [with impunity](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=3844) - Freedom Demonstrators fined - *THE New Normal* of crowd-control - hit em hard economically - see if they still care about *Freedom* after that. If they do, jail their arses. **Freedom to *not* take experimental pharmaceuticals** - that don’t work - or even get you high - but mega-empower an already corrupt powerful industry. Enforced via *[THE Vaccinated Economy](https://youtu.be/TLqYH3nAAi4?t=14)*: No jab - No job. **Right to Privacy** - not since 911, have we seen such a drastic clamp-down on privacy. GPS phone-tracking, bio-metric surveillance) # Plato's Cave *(under re-construction - delays expected - due to a high-volume of calls - due to Covid. Expected wait time: 1 days. Trying to nail down this page in particular. In theory, the rest will flow from there. Picked up a bit of Covid whilst writing this - adds some verite. Assume it's Covid - i've never had a test - should win a T-shirt at least - I survived Covid ... without a test or a vaccine. Ok, new tangential development - read in deep-voice of shoot-em-up computer game/TV promo voice-over)* *[THE Covid](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity)* *[Atrocity](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity) * *is: * *being promulgated by:* *GOD-ORGS* *Starring:* *THE Science Experts* *delivering:* *THE Official Story* *from:* *Above:* *THE Origin of Covid* *was:* *Bats from THE Yunnan Bat Cave* *infecting:* *Smuggled Pangolin * *sold at: * *a Wet-Market in Wuhan* *1000 miles away* *That Story * *was/is : * *an Orchestrated Lie* *THE Creative Germ of:* *THE Covid Lie* *for:* *Western Audiences* *was Engineered by:* *Scientists* *at:* *[THE Feb 1 ](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/inside-the-feb-1-teleconference)[Teleconference](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/inside-the-feb-1-teleconference)* *who Released * *their:* *World Premiere of: * *a Shadow Puppet-Master's Show* *where:* *Actors * *deliver:* *a FlatEarth Reality * *to:* *a Gullible Public* *As powerful ORGS fight * *Secretly* *behind the scenes* *to:* *Save their Globo-Empire* *Manipulated Imagery * *is:* *Projected on a Wall* *by:* *MSM* *for:* *a Plato's Cave Audience* *Facing: * *the Back Wall of THE Cave* *Chained* *to their seats* *by:* *Perceived Dependence* *on:* *THE Images* *on:* *THE Wall* * * *Compulsory Viewing* *That will:* *Have you rivetted to THE Edge of Your Seat* *What's Coming up Next ...* *becomes:* *an * *Addiction* *Many of: * *THE Chained* *want to * *accept* *THE Projection * *They:* *don't want to know* *Don't want:* *Others Knowing* *Wish they would:* *Shut the fuck Up* *They:* *want to know:* *The Footy Score* *or:* *Play Computer Games* *Watch * *Violent Entertainment* *What worked in:* *Roman Times* *works* *even better:* *in New Normal Times* *Non-Coms (Non-Compliers)* *are to be:* *identified demonized neutralized * *In that Order* *It's:* *THE Rules of THE Game* *But:* *THE Game* *is:* *not real* *THE Beauty is though:* *once* *Plato's Fire* *of:* *Unreality* *is lit * *in THE Cave* *it: * *Makes-its-Own-Weather* *Hey Presto* *That Unreality * *is * *Reality! * *Cool trick, man!* *If:* *you-get-away-with-it* *But:* *Plato said:* *some will Question* *THE Projection* *Break-THE-shackles of:* *Watching Images* *on:* *THE Wall* *turn towards:* *THE Actors* *bungle-around-THE-Cave* *trying to* *figure out:* *THE Mechanics of: * *THE Game* *THE Origin of:* *THE Shadows* *cast onto:* *THE Wall* *by:* *Actors* *passing in front of:* *a: * *Deliberately Lit Fire* *Congratulations!:* *You have encountered* *many levels * *in:* *Plato's Cave* *Snakes* *Ladders* *You have endured* *to: * *THE Final Level* *in your quest to:* *Unforget* *Walk your journey again* *in your memory* *past: * *THE Actors* *you have Unmasked* *beyond:* *their Fake Sun Fire* *Everything that has brought you to:* *this Moment* *where you're standing * *on the threshold of:* *THE Exit of The Cave* *Gaze through THE Portal * *to:* *the Forbidden Fruit of:* *Knowledge* *The Game presents you:* *a Ceremonial Choice * *to:* *Return to: * *THE Mob-mentality* *Projected Images* *on a Wall* *or:* *Let go* *Now:* *Step out of:* *THE Cave* *into:* *normal light* # A-lister GoF Stars (under construction) The *Covid Unreality* was/is *a Love-child* of: *THE Western eXperts: -* *representing* One-Health/One-Gov/One-Everything *...* *& ...* *THE CCP-XXX-Spurts* - bringing *THE System of Government* to *THE Table* to: *make-that-shit-a-reality ...* *ONE Org* to rule them all To achieve this, an: *Unreality Singularity* was: constructed by *ORGS/human-Reps* from: *Creation* - to *Cover-up* - to *Making-a-Killing* ... *THE Causer Actors* in our *Covid/Marvel Universe are:* **Bat Lady** - Shi Zheng-li (ORG: WIV/EcoHealth Alliance/CCP) **Batman** - Peter Daszk (ORG: EcoHealth Alliance/NIAID/WIV/CCP) **Deep-State Men** - Sir Jeremy Farrar & Anthony Fauci (ORGS: THE Welcome Trust/Oxford, National Institute of Allergies & Infectious Diseases - *Director* of NIAID since *1984* ! - not directly controlled by CCP - more an alignment of big-picture thinking) **THE Dark Knight** - Wang Lin-fa *(Org: WIV/CSIRO/UFWD/CCP)* **SARS Boy** - Dominic Dwyer (ORG: WHO/Sydney Uni/ **Pangolin Man** - Eddie Holmes, Sydney Uni/CCP **Rest of THE Feb 1 Teleconference Cohort** - perform from a script written by their Globo-Orgs. This enables two things: (a) moral absolution for *THE Actors* - *well i would've behaved differently, & i thought about it, but that's the way things were rolling org-wise, there was nothing i could do ... it was in everyone's best interests that i keep my mouth shut ... i had to think of my family* (b) Financial Self interest. So, rest assured, when our Celebrity Scientists read their parts ... it's bloody-good-acting. Very convincing. [Preaching](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/gideon-w-ian-lipkin): *ONE-Health -* *ONE-Everything*. # ORGS *WHO* is one of those *ONE-Everything* Globo-Orgs. THE Org is where THE *power* is - not in a single person, actually. Orgs cross the life-death barrier with consummate ease ... People ...? Not so much. Yeah, in certain cases, using *as long as a living person is aware you existed, you still live* *on* theory. So if you're famous. In THE pantheon from Socrates ... to Hitler Good job - you will live on ... in one way or another- as an image - forever ... Still, only as an image, a perverted one, at that, like Jesus was used by Organized Religion. Not the real *real one*. If you're not famous, yeah, your kids will remember you, some of your grand-kids, then ... *bye-bye!* Realistically, what do you remember about your great-grand-daddy ... ? That's how you'll be remembered ... But even the Immortals, including Shakespeare, are actors on a stage, same as any Hollywood performer, reading from a script, written by an Org, for a planetary audience. Sure, some ad-lib wiggle-room for the main actors - not too much. It's a game, above all else. Globo-Orgs are *THE Players/Directors* - Celebrities are their Performers - we, *Non-Influential-Entities* are *THE Played*. I've been interested in this philosophy for a while: *life is a game-simulation* (interested - different from blind faith such as our scientists demand). Whether it is or not - the reality we are dished-up is *so-much-like* being trapped inside a computer game a-la *West World* as an NHC (non-human-character), that it doesn't matter. We are filler-playees, with built-in limitations. For example: We were *required* to believe Covid was from Pangolin - that's flat-out flat-earth-society-thinking. Believing is fine, if you're into that, i don't care - but not if you're Globo-shoving it down/up everyone's throat, nose, &/or arse. Thereby altering the course of humanity with your lying power-grab. MSM/Big-Tech is the *delivery-device* for this Globo-disinformation campaign. As you would be ... as a Globo-Org player ... ... & that’s just the *free*-world. Imagine what the Dictators are doing? Actually, we don't have to - we're already doing it - as dictated by *THE WHO-Experts* (trickling down through their syndicated Orgs) - as dictated to them by *CCP/One-Everything* back-channellers. Meanwhile, our intelligence Orgs (that we pay for to protect us) contributed *nothing meaningful* to shine a light on *THE Origin.* The US had a joint-investigation - official conclusion (no details provided of evidence examined ): *No Conclusion* (aka: enacting a Globo-obfuscation psy-op.) Did any other State Security Org even do an official investigation into this event that changed the world? Aussies *mos def* did not. Made some polite request for an investigation in the beginning then it's been [begging CCP's forgiveness](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=3882) ever since. Put all the above together as your *enemy* .. it's hard to imagine a more formidable Goliath. How do you take that on? Slingshot ain't gonna cut it - besides, you'd be arrested as a *terrorist* even if you did. In the good old days, we might look for politicians to buck this trend - someone people can rally around - but in the Australian landscape at least, precious few have shown any such leadership. Not from the (so-called) left, the (so-called) right, the Greens, or the independents. They all trumpet the same line: *Listen to the* (select crew of) *Experts* Same time abuse/cancel anyone who asks a question. Those that did raise concerns (in Australia) were expelled from their parties, shadow-banned by THE Media ... or outright banned by the likes of Meta/FB . Silenced, basically. It's better in the US, but even there, politicians who sought to expose the Covid Conspiracy (eg Rand Paul, Mike Pompeo) were demonized by MSM as *far-right-wing/racists* (for opposing the CCP's version of Covid!). It was telling that in the 2020 Presidential Election, there was no talk about Covid whatsoever - not from the so-called liberal press (CNN etc) or the Murdoch press. Whilst CNN/Facebook was still banning any talk of a lab origin, Fox was exclusively focused on the BLM protests, *Migrant Caravans*, Transgender people, & a weird obsession with *AOC*. Neither Trump nor Biden mentioned the Origin of Covid (or Experimental Vaccines) *at all* during their campaign debates - even as we were in the thick of it! How is that possible? Failing any obvious leadership on the issue - that leaves the public to *organize themselves* - do their best to provide factual information and disseminate it however they can. Here’s some things we can do: **Our secret weapon is a question** The time when we blindly *[believed](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/faith-in-science)* the Top Experts is over. Science is not supposed to be an angry religion that demonizes dissenting voices. It's ironic that scientists are ostensibly anti-religion - but have become *so much like one* .*..[ it's scary](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/the-science-community).* So question the *Experts*. That will enrage them - but stay calm, carry on. Stick to the details. Remember, it's a three-way street on social media - You - *THE Experts* - an *Audience*. **Suggested Questions**
- Do you know that CCP is a Totalitarian Regime? - Do you know what the word *total* means? - Do you accept that that includes control over high-security bio-defense labs?
So there's no *taking the politics out*, doesn't matter how many times our Globo-Scientists say it. It's an easily provable lie.
- Do you have any CCP COIs? Take your time to think ......
anything that involves *money* is a COI - eg: \- Are you an Aussie politician suppressing an investigation/singing the praises of China whilst the Aussie Economy is *totally* dependent on CCP? - that's a great COI. \- prestigious international universities raking in money from dodgy *Chinese-student* programs - where students are able to [buy degrees,](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2036) basically - or become[ *UFWD* implants](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/lin-fa-wang-the-dark-knight/page/curriculum-vitae-mr-interface), like Linfa Wang. That's *textbook* COI . \- holding [honorary or otherwise](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/the-covid-atrocity/page/edward-c-holmes) positions in top-CCP-controlled labs - whilst spouting CCP's version of everything ... classic COI \- being financially/psychologically beholden to any other major Orgs that would be negatively impacted by a lab-exit revelation (eg WHO, NIAID, CDC, EcoHealth Alliance, Big-Pharma, Wellcome Trust, B&M Foundation If they won't answer, which they won't, ask: *Why won't you answer*? That will get you banned. Welcome to Outsiders Unincorporated! You're where you need to be ... If you can't trust THE Experts, which you can't, look for answers yourself ... Our actors aren't called Celebrity Scientists for nothing - they're all over the internet, busily hiding their crimes in *plain-sight* - coz they control *sight* - or think they do at least.) If a scientist, backed by MSM, were saying *fossil fuels are great!* whilst getting money from Exxon, you'd want to know that. So how 'bout those top-scientists (Daszak,Lipkin et al) promoting the CCP's version of Covid from the loudest platforms? Are they benefiting from their arrangements with this totalitarian regime? (spoiler: [*yes*](https://dulandrift.formosahut.com/books/origin-tracing-how-hard-can-it-be/page/celebrity-scientists-w-ian-lipkin)) **Details**
- What are they arguing exactly? Demand details. The top scientists will fight tooth and nail *not* to discuss details, but wade through that - you gotta get them - you can't get to the truth without them.
Once you do get to those details - you’ll find the false premise. You'll also find COIs. From there it all unravels. **Be Positive**
- Have fun. Some of it is hilarious. - Be engaging, open in discussions - leave the name-calling to the other side.
Yeah, sounds nice in theory, but what's the likelihood that will stand a chance against the combined might of the political/scientific/tech elites? That’s a fair point. But as Lin Shuling said in the protest against Miramar/Taitung Government: *If we fight, there’s still that small chance. If we do nothing, we can be sure there's no chance.*