# Post Emergence: The Cover-up

**Nov 14:** <span style="font-weight: 400;">Goes viral - see above</span>

**Dec 15:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Ian Lipkin, WHO adviser, 16:44:</span>](http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> I first heard about this outbreak on the </span>****15th Dec f****<span style="font-weight: 400;">rom </span>*[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Lu Jia-hai</span>*](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2911)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> .. who runs a </span>****large One-Health****<span style="font-weight: 400;"> program - </span>****we*** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">have a program with Prof Lu - it’s been </span>****funded*** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">for about 6 months by the</span>* ***Chinese Government*** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">but doesn’t really have any <sub>support</sub> in the US - and I‘d like to talk a little bit about that program - it’s called </span>****Gideon -*** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">it’s this Global Infectious Disease Epidemiology Network … </span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Yeah, not now Ian - we’re compiling a timeline here - we’ll get to that later. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">But you are the world-record holder for the first admitted </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">date-of-awareness</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> by a non-Chinese scientist/person. It wasn’t a fluke. Since 2013 Ian was saying:</span>

[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Lipkin/Nature:</span>](https://www.nature.com/articles/nrmicro2949?platform=oscar&draft=collection) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">The integration of human and animal medicine .. and the emphasis on the use of social media to promote early detection of risk together have great potential for the development of a truly global immune system.</span>*

[<span style="font-weight: 400;">William Karesh (2009) :</span>](https://www.rcpjournals.org/content/clinmedicine/9/3/259)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Recent changes in WHO's guidance related to the International Health Regulations will allow for information gathering </span>****without going through official channels****<span style="font-weight: 400;"> and this could **greatly help** in global response time.</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Lipkin was a WHO advisor . We can assume WHO knew by at least Dec 16. Unfortunately it didn't *greatly help*.  
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**Dec 26:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">WP:</span>](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">An account published Thursday in </span>****multiple Chinese news sites****<span style="font-weight: 400;"> by an anonymous lab technician who claimed to work at a lab contracted by hospitals said that his company had received samples from Wuhan and reached a stunning conclusion ..(:) (t)he samples contained a new coronavirus with an 87 percent similarity to SARS. .. The technician’s account included extensive images of test results and contemporaneous messages sent by the technician.</span>*

**Dec 27**<span style="font-weight: 400;">: </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Lab technician:</span>](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Lab executives held urgent meetings to brief Wuhan health officials and hospital management.</span>*

**Dec 30, 5:43pm:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Li Wenliang, an ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital, told his fellow medical school alumni in a private chat that seven people had contracted what he believed to be SARS, and one patient was </span>****quarantined*** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">at his hospital</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">. .</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">. He posted a snippet of an RNA analysis finding “SARS coronavirus” and extensive bacteria colonies in a patient’s airways.</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">BBC:</span>](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Li Wenliang .. sent a message to fellow doctors in a chat group warning them to wear protective clothing to avoid infection.</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">This is hard-evidence of human-to-human transmission. WHO was still denying it over two weeks later. </span>

**Dec 30, 7pm:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">The </span>*[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">mysterious patient samples</span>*](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> arrived at the Wuhan Institute of Virology at 7 P.M. on Dec 30, 2019</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span>

**Dec 30, 7:03:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Moments later Shi Zhengli’s cell phone rang. It was her boss, the institute’s director.</span>* *<span style="font-weight: 400;">The Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention had detected a novel coronavirus in two hospital patients with atypical pneumonia, and it wanted Shi’s renowned laboratory to investigate. </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>

[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Director:</span>](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Drop whatever you are doing and deal with it now</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Shi does. But it’s too late for the bullet train</span>

**Dec 30, evening:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">The health commission sent an </span>*[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">“urgent notice” </span>*](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;">to all hospitals about the existence of “pneumonia of unclear cause” </span>*

**9:02 pm:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Train Z27</span>](https://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains/shanghai-wuhan.htm)<span style="font-weight: 400;">, Shanghai to Wuhan, first available: 9h34m travel time. </span>

[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Shi, on the train:</span>](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> I wondered if \[the municipal health authority\] got it wrong. I had never expected this kind of thing to happen in Wuhan, in central China. Could they have come from our lab?</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">(Virus Hunter (frequent Batman collaborator - who is Bat Lady’s colleague-in-arms - who is Virus hunter’s protegee) knew about it by at least Dec 15 - but Bat Lady’s Bat-phone doesn’t ring until Dec 30, 7:03 pm? Not plausible.</span>

**Dec 30:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Drastic (PDF p6):</span>](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349073738_An_investigation_into_the_WIV_databases_that_were_taken_offline) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">New version of the database factsheet was uploaded at the time Pr. Shi Zhengli was on the Shanghai to Wuhan high speed night train.</span>*

**Dec 31:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Chinese government started to censor .. </span>*[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">“Unknown Wuhan Pneumonia”</span>*](https://www.businessinsider.com.au/wechat-users-posted-coronavirus-before-china-confirmed-cases-2020-2)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> and “Wuhan Seafood Market” on YY, a Chinese live-streaming platform.</span>*

**Dec 31:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Chinese authorities alert WHO to</span>*[ *<span style="font-weight: 400;">unusual pneumonia</span>*](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/31/timeline-how-the-new-coronavirus-spread)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> in Wuhan</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span>

[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Reuters:</span>](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-pneumonia-idUSKBN1YZ0GP)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Chinese health authorities said they are investigating 27 cases of viral pneumonia in the central city of Wuhan, after rumors on social media suggested the outbreak could be linked to .. (SARS). </span>*

*<span style="font-weight: 400;">(S)even were in critical condition and 18 were in stable condition, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said on Tuesday on its Weibo social media account. </span>*

**Dec 31:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">People’s Daily:</span>](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-pneumonia-idUSKBN1YZ0GP) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">The cause of the disease is not clear. We cannot confirm it is what’s being spread online, that it is SARS virus. Other severe pneumonia is more likely.</span>*

**Dec 31:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Taiwanese health experts</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">warn WHO about human-to-human transmission</span>](https://www.ft.com/content/2a70a02a-644a-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68)<span style="font-weight: 400;">. The warning is</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">ignored</span>](https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152?lang=en)<span style="font-weight: 400;">. (Two weeks later WHO is still insisting there's </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">no evidence</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">. When the clamour grows in Taiwan, a free country, Tedros accuses the Taiwanese of being</span>[ *<span style="font-weight: 400;">racist</span>*](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3912961)<span style="font-weight: 400;">.)</span>

**Jan. 1:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">(T)he Wuhan Public Security Bureau summoned eight people for posting and spreading “rumors” about Wuhan hospitals receiving SARS-like cases — detentions that were reported on “Xinwen Lianbo,” a newscast watched by tens of millions. .. </span>*

[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Wang Guangbao:</span>](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">The eight posters getting seized made all of us doctors feel we were at risk.</span>*

**Jan 1:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Xinhua:</span>](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">The police call on all netizens to not fabricate rumors, not spread rumors, not believe rumors .. (but rather) jointly build a harmonious, clear and bright cyberspace. </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">(sounds just like FB)</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Jan 3: </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Nature:</span>](https://www.nature.com/immersive/d41586-020-03435-6/index.html) <span style="font-weight: 400;">Prof Zhang Yongzhen’s</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> laboratory at the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center received a sample of the pathogen on 3 January. </span>*

*<span style="font-weight: 400;">On the same day, the Chinese government circulated an order forbidding local authorities and labs from publishing information about the virus.</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Using an </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Illumina </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">sequencing machine, Prof Zhang Yongzhen (Kunming/Fudan Uni/CDC/ST</span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Asian of the Year</span>](https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/professor-zhang-yongzhen-decision-to-publish-genome-map-made-at-some-personal-risk-0)<span style="font-weight: 400;">) began sequencing</span>

**2 a.m., Jan 5:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Nature:</span>](https://www.nature.com/immersive/d41586-020-03435-6/index.html)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> (T)eam member Chen Yan-Mei alerted Zhang that the virus was related to SARS. Later that day, Zhang notified Shanghai’s municipal health authority of the threat and uploaded the data to the National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI), a </span>****sequence repository run by the US National Institutes of Health****<span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">(So NIH had it, was sitting on it. Why?)</span>

**Jan 5:** <span style="font-weight: 400;">Using an </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Illumina </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">sequencing machine, Prof Zhang Yongzhen (Kunming/Fudan Uni/CDC/ST</span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Asian of the Year</span>](https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/professor-zhang-yongzhen-decision-to-publish-genome-map-made-at-some-personal-risk-0)<span style="font-weight: 400;">), at a CDC facility in Beijing, completed the sequencing of SARS-Cov-2 </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">and shared it with his </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">long-time collaborator</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Eddie Holmes (Sydney Uni/NSW</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">Scientist of the Year</span>](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2020/10/27/evolutionary-virologist-Edward-Holmes-2020-NSW-Scientist-Year.html)<span style="font-weight: 400;">). Holmes </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">helped him work out what it meant</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> - he was the only non-Chinese scientist granted access at this point.</span>

**January 6:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">WHO:</span>](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/mystery-pneumonia-outbreak-sickens-dozens-china/story?id=68094861) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">There is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission.</span>*

**January 7:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Eddie:</span>](https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/943251#vp_3)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> We submitted a</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">paper</span>](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2008-3)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> on January 7 to </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Nature</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">, and they were very keen for us to release it.</span>

**January 8:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Eddie:</span>](https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/943251#vp_3) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">the Wall Street Journal, of all places, published an</span>*[ *<span style="font-weight: 400;">article</span>*](https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-virus-discovered-by-chinese-scientists-investigating-pneumonia-outbreak-11578485668)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> saying it's a novel coronavirus</span>*

*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Then, social media people were discussing that it's a coronavirus and we need to know what it is. Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust, certainly was very vocal in that. </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">(Jeremy - always the political perspective - sees need to get on top of the narrative)</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Jan 9: </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Eddie:</span>](https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/943251#vp_3) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Chinese authorities confirmed that it was a novel coronavirus. At that point, it just seemed to me </span>****quite ridiculous****<span style="font-weight: 400;"> because everyone knew this was a coronavirus, but </span>****we're*** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">not saying what it is. It got to the point where I thought, We have to get this out, because it was just crazy. </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">(This is NIH still sitting on it time)</span>

**Jan 10, 8am:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Eddie:</span>](https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/943251#vp_3) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">I called him very early Saturday morning my time, even earlier his time. He was on a plane. He was about to fly between Shanghai and Beijing — I can't remember which direction he was going, but he was strapped in his seat.I said, "Zhang, we have to release the sequence." He said, "Give me a minute to think about it," and he said, "Okay, do it."</span>*

**Midday (Aus) Jan 10:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Luckily, my good friend and colleague</span>*[ *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Andrew Rambaut</span>*](https://www.ed.ac.uk/edinburgh-infectious-diseases/research/themes/disease-dynamics/andrew-rambaut)*<span style="font-weight: 400;">, from Edinburgh, was still awake — it was about 1 AM his time. He runs this website called</span>*[ *<span style="font-weight: 400;">virological.org</span>*](https://virological.org/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;">, which has been a very nice open-access forum. We had some frantic emails, and then we wrote some text for the release, and then I posted the sequence on that website at lunchtime on Saturday here and</span>*[ *<span style="font-weight: 400;">posted it simultaneously</span>*](https://twitter.com/edwardcholmes/status/1215802670176276482)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> on Twitter. That was the open-access moment.</span>*

*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Zhang was not the only one or even the first one, but it turned out that we first made it open access.</span>*

**Jan 11:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Holmes</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">tweets</span>](https://twitter.com/edwardcholmes/status/1215802670176276482)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> that the genome is now available at</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">Virological.org</span>](https://t.co/EeqQXCs3n3?amp=1)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> (Rambaut’s website).</span>

**Jan 11-31:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Holmes and Rambaut collaborate with Garry (Tulane), Andersen (Scripps/WuXi PharmaTech) to analyse the virus and</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">draft Prox O</span>](https://youtu.be/IxwrDSYrhjU)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> whilst communicating with Farrar/Fauci/Collins.</span>

**Jan 14:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">WHO:</span>](https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152?lang=en) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found </span>****no clear evidence****<span style="font-weight: 400;"> of human-to-human transmission.</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> (!!!)</span>

**Jan. 20, morning:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">WP:</span>](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">For the first time .. Wuhan public health officials changed the wording of their daily statements to omit their previous references to “limited human-to-human transmission.”</span>*

**Jan 20, pm:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Zhong Nanshan, an 83-year old and veteran of the SARS crisis who is considered a national hero, appeared on state media to announce the virus was in fact </span>****transmissible*** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">between people.</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">This crucial information was suppressed for at least 21 days - during the CNY period when people travelled widely throughout the world. With full WHO complicity.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Jan 21: Xi issued “important instructions” to cadres to “put the people’s health and safety first.”</span>

**Jan 21:** [<span style="font-weight: 400;">Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission:</span>](https://inews.co.uk/news/china-virus-outbreak-coronavirus-wuhan-sars-cover-up-government-warning-388384) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">Anyone who puts the face of politicians before the interests of the people will be the sinner of a millennium .. They will be </span>****nailed on the pillar of shame for eternity****<span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Wonder how many western scientists who collaborated in the cover up will end up on the</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> pillar of shame for eternity</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span>

**Jan. 23, 2020:** *<span style="font-weight: 400;">China imposes </span>*[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">aggressive containment</span>*](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/timeline-coronavirus-started/story?id=69435165)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> measures in Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, suspending flights and trains and shutting down subways, buses and ferries in an attempt to stem the spread of the virus.</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">Having ensured its spread throughout the world - CCP swings Lipkin’s containment plan into action domestically.</span>

**Jan 27:** [*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Wuhan Mayor</span>*](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Zhou Xianwang said he was not authorized by his superiors to disclose the epidemic earlier.</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> (Evidence the higher-ups knew)</span>

**Jan 29:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Lipkin flies into Guangzhou China to </span>[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">see for myself</span>*](https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> what the issues were. </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Meets with</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> pulmonologist, </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Zhong Nanshan; Foreign Minister for Health Chen Zhu ( 陈竺); the Minister of Science and Technology; George Gao (China CDC) and Premier, Li Keqiang.</span>

**Jan 31:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Andersen emails Fauci to say </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">some of the features (potentially)</span>*[ *<span style="font-weight: 400;">look engineered</span>*](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561/leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails.pdf)*<span style="font-weight: 400;">. .. Eddie, Bob, Mike, and myself all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory.</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> (Andersen’s brackets)</span>

**Feb 1:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Garry says draft of </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Prox O is complete</span>](https://youtu.be/IxwrDSYrhjU?t=775)<span style="font-weight: 400;">. (So, overnight, Prox O authors went from </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">looks engineered</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> to completing a full-draft that</span> [*<span style="font-weight: 400;">irrefutably shows</span>*](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7095063)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> it wasn’t?)</span>

**Feb 1/(Feb 2 Aus):** <span style="font-weight: 400;">Pivotal teleconference</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">organized/chaired by Farrar</span>](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2947)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> with Fauci, Prox O authors, Koopmans (WHO), Ferguson, Fouchier to form </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">agreement on next steps</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span>

**Feb 2 or 3:**[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">Teleconference organized by Farrar</span>](http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2947)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> with Tedros, (includes Fauci and Collins) to lock in a </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">prevaricating </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Tedros.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">It was in these two crisis meetings where the </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Covid Conspiracy </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">was formulated, </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">potentially</span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">. They went into the Feb 1 meeting thinking it was a lab-leak - came out with a co-ordinated plan to cover that up. Then Farrar/Fauci/Collins on-sold it to WHO. Which wasn't hard.</span>

**Feb 4:**<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Lipkin, Prox O co-author, returns from China begins media offensive </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">ref</span>](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/03/09/a-local-guide-to-the-coronavirus)<span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">ref</span>](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KmFbVfwZQU)<span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">ref</span>](https://www.indiatoday.in/programme/newstrack-with-rahul-kanwal/video/dr-ian-lipkin-dismisses-china-lab-theory-says-virus-came-from-bat-not-lab-1669524-2020-04-21,)<span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">ref</span>](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/epidemiologist-veteran-of-sars-and-mers-shares-coronavirus-insights-after-china-trip/)<span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">ref</span>](https://www.brisbanenews.net/news/265643621/gideon-a-vision-for-ending-pandemics-with-dr-ian-lipkin)<span style="font-weight: 400;">: </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">I started going onto the news media and </span>*[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">sharing as much as I could</span>*](http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin)<span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">Says:</span>](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/our-experts-respond-coronavirus-outbreak)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">(T)here is no evidence that the Wuhan virus will spread to the same extent as SARS, </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span>[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">emphasizes </span>*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KmFbVfwZQU)<span style="font-weight: 400;">that Covid is less dangerous than the flu, advises </span>**against** <span style="font-weight: 400;">face masks, </span>[<span style="font-weight: 400;">despite knowing</span>](https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-lipkin/)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> they were effective. (32:35)</span>

[<span style="font-weight: 400;">TWIV interviewer (talking to Garry):</span>](https://youtu.be/IxwrDSYrhjU) *<span style="font-weight: 400;">At that time (Feb 1) there was barely any infection outside of China, right? </span>*

[*<span style="font-weight: 400;">Garry:</span>*](https://youtu.be/IxwrDSYrhjU)*<span style="font-weight: 400;"> Yeah, </span>****that's true****<span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span>*

<span style="font-weight: 400;">In fact there was only one case of</span>[ <span style="font-weight: 400;">local transmission</span>](https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-02-20-intl-hnk/index.html)<span style="font-weight: 400;"> in the US by then. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">So the window to take decisive action to stop the spread, stop all that followed, was still wide-open when the teleconference was held.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400;">That’s where the </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">culpability </span>*<span style="font-weight: 400;">comes in.</span>